Velvet Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 C'mon now, Mr. Paragus, you must admit that there is a diffence between standing outside in -15 temperature on a windless night and standing outside in -15 temperature with a 60km/h wind. One is colder than another and there oughtta be an index that gives you a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 When my nipples cut glass!! Hell...that's my clue!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabidmonkey Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Velvet you're wrong and the asparagus is right. If you are outside and it's -20 with no wind, it takes a certain amount of time for your body to cool down. If it's -20 with lots of wind, it will take less time for your body to get cold. This means it feels like it's colder outside but it still is -20. If the wind was colder than the air it would make all the air colder and the thermometers would read the same in or out of the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarfmaster C Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 alright - school's comin in handy - velvet you're right: your skin contains moisture - the moisture is evaporated by the cold air 'cause the air is so dry. but to change states (liquid on your skin to vapour in the air) it takes the latent heat of vapourisation (2260J/g) energy from your body (sensible heat) ---> that is, you're losing 2260 Joules of energy (that you feel as heat) for every g of water evaporated out of your skin. the wind comes into this by transferring the moist air (once the evaporation has occurred) away from the skin so the air at the skin is dry and draws out more moisture. in calm conditions the air around your skin doesn't move much... notice the difference when you shave your head, or anything else - cause the hair creates more roughness and restricts air movement even more. i think a thick cloud of smoke helps retain heat too have fun sleddin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 nya-nya-nya-nya-nyaaaaa-aaa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Which translated, sometimes means: don't let science tell you real life is not true. Anybody who doesn't admit that the body feels colder in a wind as opposed to out of the wind might as well just go live in a vacuum chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I thought this was Ahess vs Ottawa MEC people not Asparagus vs Velvet vs Rabidmonkey vs Earthfreak... The bottom line is that it's damn cold outside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gateaux Posted January 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Ahess maybe next time around you can come out and keep all of us warm with your special Love! Know what im zrrrrinnnngnggggggggg!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I'm in for the fun!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeker Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Drinks, kart and foosball are starting to sound pretty damn inviting, I might have to kitten bitch myself out of the toboggan plan. PS - My roomate is a crackhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 ...you two boffin' yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Alright all you sissy pants...no outdoor fun tonight... but I know you got it in ya for the future! (ahess6488 - learn to appreciate the outdoors!! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 damn right Dr. Hux! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Suck it up assholes. What was the wind chill inside 2660 Norberry tonight? Zero Know why? There was no wind. Velvet's right! Aint no meteorologist is going to tell me he is wrong. The only 'blowing' in here was drunken bullshit, and he wasnt even here. Think about it......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Bro....sorry I didn't make it....ended up watching that new Marley DVD with Rick and well, things got a little boozy...I tried to call you late-night but I was so drunk I couldn't remember your number...yeeeshh...sorry chief, we'll make up for it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Final point: If wind doesn't make things colder than non-wind, why does my car have a fan blowing on the radiator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabidmonkey Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 I wasn't trying to say, and I don't think I said, that the wind doesn't make you feel colder. I was simply explaining that even if they say the windchill is -37 but the temperature is -20, then the temperature (A measure of the average kinetic energy of the particles in a sample of matter, expressed in terms of units or degrees designated on a standard scale) is one or the other, not both. And the actual temperature would be -20 in this case, not -37. If the windchill was only -25 and the temperature was -20, it is still -20 outside. Windchill is a measure to tell us how cold it feels outside, because as everyone knows it FEELS colder outside when it's windy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asparagus Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Velvet: C'mon now, Mr. Paragus, you must admit that there is a diffence between standing outside in -15 temperature on a windless night and standing outside in -15 temperature with a 60km/h wind. One is colder than another and there oughtta be an index that gives you a clue. I agree, there is a difference between -15°C on a windless night and -15°C on a windy night. The windy night feels much more like -15°C than the windless night as the clothing your wearing is much less effective at making you feel like it is warmer. We have an index. The temperature. What people need to understand is that -15°C or -20°C is very cold and enough to do serious damage to any being outside for too long under-protected. Listing the temperature, along with the wind speed would be much more effective then making up some number like -42°C, in my opinion. We should try to educate people, instead of trying to scare them. If the temperature is -15°C, you should bring enough clothing to keep you warm, wind or not. The wind doesn't make you colder, it makes you cold faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 its -13 right now... boy am i hammered,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 but it doeswn't feel like it b4ecaus e I am hammered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gentlemonkey Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 kerI! you're getting good at that..!! laughing over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 quote:Originally posted by Asparagus: We should try to educate people, instead of trying to scare them.Are you really prepared for me to attempt to explain it? How much calculus do you understand? (Not that I really want to explain it--I spent far too long marking heat transfer assignments in university.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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