rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Well, here we go again. Our union presented us with the latest proposal from the city and many of the union members are not happy. We vote on Wednesday/Thursday on this latest tentative deal. I can tell you it may be really close. Despite what you may hear in the news, the biggest sticking point is our sick days. The city has decided they only what to provide us with 6 a year, where we previously had 12. There are some other issues with the sick days that could hurt us in the long run. If our 6 days are used up in one year we would be required to show doctors notes for sick days off in the following 2 years.Example...say I sprained my wrist after falling on some ice and was unable to work. My doctor says I need to take 6 days off. Now for the next two years I must provide a doctors note for each time I am off sick. Anyways, just wanted to clear up anything you may hear in the news over the next couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 If the union membership votes against the contract, what happens? Is it back to the bargaining table with the buses rolling as they are (with drivers still not in uniform, for example), or will there be an immediate walkout?Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) Well here's the thing. Our membership was not happy with the fact the union never upped the current job action to add cutting all of the overtime which would have put more pressure on the city. The no uniforms was a pretty useless campaign. There were alot of rumours swirling about some fishy negotiating but I won't get into that. We were told when we first walked in there yesterday that if we voted NO we were voting for a strike to begin on Friday. However, after the members showed thier displeasure with this contract, our Executive Negotiating team started changing thier tune. We have asked for them to cut all overtime before we go on a full fledged strike. If things don't get solved in the New Year, that's when we'd prefer to go on strike, it'll have more of an impact then. Edited December 13, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Don't mess with peoples SICK DAYS! Let's say there's a big Ween show in Ottawa and you need 2 days off for recovery. How in the hell are you going to get a doctor's note for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 EXACTLY!!! but seriously. 6 days...cmon, every other city department gets 12 before the doctor's note BS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 We'll just have to get Hux to change his skank name back to what it was...Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) EXACTLY!!! but seriously. 6 days...cmon, every other city department gets 12 before the doctor's note BS!Pretty sweet. And you don't need doctor's notes either.I work private sector, non-union. You guys have it really good. edit. and as a taxpayer i pay your salaries. go figure.AD Edited December 13, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Fuck you fucking OC transpo fucks. I am going back on my 'egg campaign' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenSeasJim Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 And I'm here complaining about my 24 sick days per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Fuck you fucking OC transpo fucks. I am going back on my 'egg campaign'Good morning Andre! And how are you today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 hahaha...he's still pissed about that ticket! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 edit. and as a taxpayer i pay your salaries. go figure. AD You're lucky we let you off with only a 3% increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 fuck bus drivers, they're lazy qwats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I find it odd that people insist on having random free days off with pay.I guess I find it odd 'cuz I've never had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) Everyday I am in a confined place with about 50-60 strangers, coughing, sneezing, spreading virus's everywhere. Now I am not comparing us to hospital workers, but they are entitled to many more days than us, I assume simply due to the fact that they face disease on a daily basis.Think about it this way, do you really want someone that's not 100% well to drive you and 100 people hurtling down the Queensway at 100km/h. How many times have you had a wicked cold, gone to work, thought to yourself "man what am I doing here, I can't function," then gone to the doctors and paid the $15 for a doctors note, all for just needing some rest. I can't even remember wanting to leave my house with a cold just to get a doctor's note. I know I am getting a bit defensive here, but man, everybody hopes for a great work environment, everybody hopes to be happy at work, all we are asking for is an extra 6 days, (that we pay a percentage for with our benifits package) so we can feel OK about taking a day off if we don't feel 100% Edited December 13, 2005 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im going home Donny Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 man alive....I hope you guys get what you deserve, get it soon and start hiring ME sooooon.Of coarse you guys deserve a better deal...you have a tonne of responsibility in your hands... gee just peoples lives....no biggy right.The sick note crap is pretty insulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I'm just having a bad day. Stress over this, and Christmas all wrapped into one really sucks. Everyone was in a good place last Saturday when they announced a deal had been reached, only to find out the only things that they came up with was 3% instead of 2.8%, light rail work will be unionized, after 15 years, and $50 more for eye glass benefits. Don't know how it took nearly 3 weeks to come up with that. We are just upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolly Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 (edited) You guys have it really good. ADand compared to us, you guys have it preatty good LOL Edited December 13, 2005 by Guest found the quote button Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im going home Donny Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 of coarse you are big guy. 100% understandable. I'm thinking good thoughts for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak By Night Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I'm just having a bad day. Stress over this, and Christmas all wrapped into one really sucks. Everyone was in a good place last Saturday when they announced a deal had been reached, only to find out the only things that they came up with was 3% instead of 2.8%, light rail work will be unionized, after 15 years, and $50 more for eye glass benefits. Don't know how it took nearly 3 weeks to come up with that. We are just upset. Who's your union negotiator? Bob Goodenow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 I support you dinghy! Even though I'm in the government my status doesn't give me sick days. It sucks having to take a day oof without pay because you can't perform your job function, a double whammy. 12 sick days a year, especially in light of your comparison to hospital workers, seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Bob Goodenow...Now that's funny... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 By the way, just 'cuz I find it weird doesn't mean I wouldn't be fighting for free days off if I could.If you make it through the whole year without getting sick, what happens to those six days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 Ween shows, I hope. AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted December 13, 2005 Report Share Posted December 13, 2005 By the way, just 'cuz I find it weird doesn't mean I wouldn't be fighting for free days off if I could.If you make it through the whole year without getting sick, what happens to those six days?In the government you accumulate sick days. My manager has 9 months of sick days!! I think in most cases like this they get put towards early retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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