afro poppa Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4795709.stmthis is ridiculous...[color:purple]I especially enjoy when Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says the holocaust is a "myth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenenbaum Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 nuke 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Of course this is perverse and holocaust denial is scary scary business but there is something half coherent in this point:"You see they allow the Prophet to be insulted. But when we talk about the Holocaust, they consider it so holy that they punish people for questioning it." Although there is something more coherent in this point:"Iran, a nation that aspires to nuclear capabilities, and whose president has made genocidal statements against Israel, is a flashing red light signalling danger not only to Israel, but to all enlightened nations". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted August 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Personally, I didn't agree when the Prophet was depicted in those cartoons awhile back and frankly I definately don't agree now when a terrible tragedy is made light of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 is it wrong to say that at least this time they're acknowledging it? :crazy: i tend not to agree with most things on all sides - seems to me to be just a big ball of double standards.so any bets on when the u.s. moves to fuck-up iran? they've got 'em surrounded quite nicely now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted August 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 While I don't agree with the cartoons Iran is displaying I think the wrong move would be to attack them violently or kill people over it. It just won't solve anything and I think that that is what Iran wants anyway, just to prove that they were right.Two wrongs never make a right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 umm - dont misunderstand me - im not insinuating that the reaction to this specifically would amount to an attack - but the writing's been on the wall for a looooooooooong time and they've been strategically moving their chess pieces. take a look at a map of the area and reference that to US military bases in the area - it's not like they decided this yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidNintendoOrgan Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 nuke 'em!agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidNintendoOrgan Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 nuke 'em!agreedA joke! Let’s put religion into the witness relocation program for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Let’s put religion into the witness relocation program for a while :grin: :grin: YES!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 there's alot of bad shit going on there, and there isn't a wrong and and right, just alot of innocent people dying.. really fucking sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shainhouse Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 (edited) I just remember that there is quite a bias here in these articles. Yes, Iran's government is fucked up, but the country is not fully representative of the gov't. Is all of America gon-toting, wife-beating rednecks who constantly misunderestimate themselves? Even though, I think Iran is just pushing buttons to push buttons. They remind me of the kid in the sandbox with the biggest firetruck, egging on all the other kids without realizing that there is another kid in the sandbox across the playground with an even bigger firetruck. Edited August 16, 2006 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 unfortunately, I think there are some people on both sides of the conflict that want to see this turn into a larger affair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 Whether this is instigation or not, their point in publishing these cartoons is completely illogical.Their "prophet" is a religious character. This is closer to myth than reality; to say the least. Of course, they believe it's true, but it's just from a religious text, not unlike the Jewish Torah, and no one believes that every word in the Torah is literal (except for a very tiny minority of fundamentalists who are such a tiny minority they're hardly worth mentioning).The Holocaust, on the other hand, was a documented historical event, in which untold numbers of people were killed and humiliated; including but not limited to 6 million Jews. It is not as though they published a cartoon insulting the Jewish God. Rather, they poked fun at mass murder. They need to get this specious argument straight, or just shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrtrhhrtgg Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 I just sincerely hope that someone can get the people involved to sit down and get things sorted out before this escalates. Far too much hatred out there right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kookycanooky Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 that hatred will never go away.golda meir said "Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us". The UN can't do anything to settle the argument...this will eventually settle down and just repeat itself in a few years. what a fucking world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 really though - it is an issue of freedom of speech in its purest form.how can you legislate the gray shades between the black and white???freedom of religious belief, including all things associated with that is definitely in check.how are we going to deal with this?nuke em for saying things?the more moral guidelines we have the more ways people will try to find to use them for their own means and not the good of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted August 16, 2006 Report Share Posted August 16, 2006 IMO, as far as "dealing with this" goes, I really just think you ignore such sillliness.Ya, okay Iran. Publish your little childish cartoons. Who cares.We have to choose our battles. I see no need to nuke anyone or really even react at all to such childishness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted August 17, 2006 Report Share Posted August 17, 2006 really though - it is an issue of freedom of speech in its purest form.Just because you *can* publish something doesn't mean you *should*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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