explain why the bus takes bloody forever to go anywhere then. i drive from sw-ontario to ottawa and vice versa probably 5-8 times per year as well, and have never got a speeding ticket on the 416 or 401. i'm sure if irie guy is concerned about his little ones in the car, he's not gonna be driving too far above the limit anyways... highway 7 through tweed and down to belleville saves about 40 km of distance, but speed limits are lower and roads are 2 lane most of the way pick your poison, there are benefits to both routes. of course your mileage may vary, hehe. the one thing we all agree on - highway 7 is brutal