I'm with you MarcO. I liked most of Phish's recorded stuff, but couldn't get into the live show recordings. But I loved the live shows I saw... and the jamming is fantastic when it's all unfolding infront of you in real time. It's kind of like a magic trick. And I don't know if I could stand to listen to an audio recording of David Copperfield, and many live shows are like that... for me. Same thing with Umphree's... I think though the Live show thing, is that I have to be there... then I like to hear the show again... but ultimately a live show recording is only a small small fraction of the totality of the live experience... To summarize: For me, live stuff needs to be experienced live.