Jaimoe Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 It looks like the TTC will be on strike as of Monday. I can't support this. They strike every couple of years. They are well paid for what they do. Fuck them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I was gonna say, has it been 6 months already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I was gonna say, has it been 6 months already?Previous TTC Strikes And Lengths1952: 19 days1970: 12 days1974: 23 days, the longest in the system's history1978: 8 days1989: Workers stage a slowdown that, while not a strike, severely impinges on service. Strategy includes following every rule to the letter and subways crawling in and out of stations with agonizing slowness. It does little to endear the union to passengers, who take a hostile attitude towards their actions. It lasts 41 days.1991: 8 days April 1999: 2 daysMay 29, 2006: One-day wildcat walkout ends with buses running by the afternoon rush hour, but the subway staying shut for the rest of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 The TTC chairman said that they have to reach an agreement by Sunday at 4pm, so what this means is the monkeys will be on strike as of 4:01. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I heard it on the radio as 4 AM Monday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Yes, if a deal is not reached by 4pm Sunday, the strike starts 4am Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I was gonna say' date=' has it been 6 months already?[/quote']Previous TTC Strikes And Lengths1952: 19 days1970: 12 days1974: 23 days, the longest in the system's history1978: 8 days1989: Workers stage a slowdown that, while not a strike, severely impinges on service. Strategy includes following every rule to the letter and subways crawling in and out of stations with agonizing slowness. It does little to endear the union to passengers, who take a hostile attitude towards their actions. It lasts 41 days.1991: 8 days April 1999: 2 daysMay 29, 2006: One-day wildcat walkout ends with buses running by the afternoon rush hour, but the subway staying shut for the rest of the day.Time flies when your having fun, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 The panic is setting in thanks to the media coverage. Good thing I got my bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Hickster Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Fuck that will suck for me getting to work in the mornings, Dam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 issues/perspectives?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I guess I'll keep driving... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ike Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Did anyone read the article in the sun that listed the salaries of a bunch of TTC employees? I didn't myself but heard that bus drivers are making like $70,000 or more per year, and in one case a person selling tokens made over $100,000 in a year.If that is correct then I can't believe they have the balls to go on strike and demand more money. No wonder it costs so much to use public transit in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 is it only money?I read it was about benefits and working conditions, with salary being enough of a bargainingchip to tip the scales.Strikes are often touted as being about money but there are often underlying issues that the media don't actively pursue. any other sides on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Did anyone read the article in the sun that listed the salaries of a bunch of TTC employees? I didn't myself but heard that bus drivers are making like $70,000 or more per year, and in one case a person selling tokens made over $100,000 in a year.If that is correct then I can't believe they have the balls to go on strike and demand more money. No wonder it costs so much to use public transit in Toronto.I believe the "token taker" salary was not his "base salary". This was a person who never took a holiday AND worked TONS of overtime. A huge percentage of that 100K was in OT wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I too don't believe it was salary. The salary part of the equation was someting like a 2% raise which over the timeframe of the agreement (past or future) wasn't even cost of living.It had more to do with safety and injury pay. I think they want 100% pay when hurt on the job as opposed to 80%. For what its worth, I think that TTC workers make less than Mississauga and Brampton etc. and also receive less benefits.They may be paid decent - but for the number of lives that rest on their shoulders they should be. Its also getting more dangerous for them. Its not an easy job if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 ps. all my information is admittedly second hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Hickster Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I heard the whole thing about how the government if proposed with the idea of makling the TTC a ecentiall service I think it should deffinatly be classed as such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 IMHO, if it becomes an essential service, it had better well be funded by the gov't as such. I grew up in Toronto with no car and survived perfectly fine using the TTC. It was great. It's definitely been going down the shitter for years now. I'm not on it much at all anymore, but the last few times I did it was nowhere near what it used to be (cleanliness, service, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I heard the whole thing about how the government if proposed with the idea of makling the TTC a ecentiall service I think it should deffinatly be classed as suchI am, too, provided it imposes equally on employees and management. The strike is happening because the two entities that share the responsibility of keeping the system running disagree on things. Forcing the employees back to work, while keeping them to the deal they had, is unfair, to my thinking. If the back-to-work legislation had a provision that said the union would get benefits according to the average of the last proposal put forth from each side (that holds for quantitative items; for qualitative things, I think a similar method could work), then I'd be cool with it (with the averages holding until a contract was agreed upon).Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Hickster Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Yea I agree with yea there Kev, But it will suck if they do go on, no serivce strike, I will have a bitch of a time getting from site to site, What I was trying to get at was that if they had became a essential service they wouldnt be allowed to have a 100% walk out but be put on work to rule or limited service status Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Yup ... the sad thing is that when the TTC walks, it proves that they are essential, but the public ends up simply hating them for doing it. Support for any type of strike/walkout/lockout in these regions is rarely supported by the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Hickster Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I wouldnt mind seeing what they are fighting for, cause it could be a very valad reasons, I know what they can be like being a Union Boy myself ( Local 2 BACU!) but it does put alot of hurt on the city if they arnt working I wouldnt mind if they striked but aslong as there was a very limited service still avaliable, Not to mention is goin to be crammed on the raods if they do strike it usually busy enough for people driving to work but I heard they are expecting atleast a 20% increase of vehicles on the road if they do go on strike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 Yup, it'll be ugly if it happens. Hopefully there will be a last minute deal made to avoid it. Hey, I'm a "brother" too (Canadian Media Guild). I'm on overtime right now due to the hockey playoffs. I'm ready to go home, drink some beers, and get smarter Cheers brother, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Hickster Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 haha , Im having beers now! Any good shows coming up for you Kev? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted April 18, 2008 Report Share Posted April 18, 2008 I'm dyin' for a brew right now. Outta here in half an hour ... i hope. Not much on the calendar right now that i can think of. Clapton in May up on the lawns Then June and July just get nutty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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