mattm Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) FYI: There were hybrids in both spots when I got there but one was leaving and I took the pictures after. I also notice that they will no longer have plastic bags in their canadian stores soon, you either bring your own or you can buy one of their re-usable ones for just $1. Just thought I'd share that. I think it's nice to see a large company taking some environmental responsibility or using it's vast resources to send a message, good on them. http://www.ikea.com/ms/en_US/about_ikea/social_environmental/environment.html Edited April 16, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skelter Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 bah ... buy local.And buy stuff that doesn't fall apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 that's pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Looks like they just got a reward for being so "green":http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/April2009/16/c2006.htmlThe more I read, the more I'm proud of them. Why can't other companies follow this? As in, if grocery stores stopped supplying plastic bags, would there really be a drop off in sales? Would people really stop shopping for food and just up and die? Or travel way out of their way to go to a store that does have plastic bags? Nah, they'd just get reusable ones so why not just do it? Same with many things.As to local, did you know that IKEA even purchased a whole tonne of the pine damaged by the beetles? That's a bit local. They used the wood to make pins instead of getting metal ones made in china...http://www.earthimprints.com/blog/IKEA Edited April 16, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 As in, if grocery stores stopped supplying plastic bags, would there really be a drop off in sales?Starting next week, Loblaws will, in essence, make plastic bags products that have to be purchased (at five cents per bag), so if you don't need any of their bags, you won't get charged any extra.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWeeJig Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm pretty sure that Quebec has imposed a law against all stores offering plastic bags. It may just be hearsay, but that's what a little birdie told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Gruvsten Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 and the liquor store isn't dishing out bags in the near future either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty sure that Quebec has imposed a law against all stores offering plastic bags. It may just be hearsay, but that's what a little birdie told me. hearsay, confirmed. Certain states in India have, as well as San Francisco thoughhttp://www.cbc.ca/news/background/environment/shoppingbags.html Edited April 16, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.Huxtable Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 The SAQs (Liquor stores) in Quebec no longer offer bags. It's a great start to a great trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau. Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 In Hamilton, the liqour stores stopped using plastic quite awhile ago (at least the two I visit). And I know some grocery stores started using the re-usuable bag deal about a year ago, I believe Food basics is one, although I think it's sorta like Brad mentioned about Loblaws. We've been using the re-usable bags for a couple years now.Good on Ikea for that, now they just have to start making products with a bit of staying power (eg: not falling apart as Skelter mentioned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 The SAQs (Liquor stores) in Quebec no longer offer bags. It's a great start to a great trend.Actually, the LCBO should be completely off the plastic bags by now, too. They started phasing them out last year and were not going to be replacing them (there may still be stores that have some stock but there won't be new stock). Recycled paper bags and $1 reusable bags there now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 The SAQs (Liquor stores) in Quebec no longer offer bags. It's a great start to a great trend.Actually' date=' the LCBO should be completely off the plastic bags by now, too. They started phasing them out last year and were not going to be replacing them (there may still be stores that have some stock but there won't be new stock). Recycled paper bags and $1 reusable bags there now...[/quote']They ran out of them some time last year. Sucks if you want to carry more than a couple of six packs home, especially if you have other carry-ables with you.I'm been thinking about the ubiquity of these re-usable bags. Seems they are being produced much faster than anyone can re-use them. Stores even market their own special brand of the re-usable bag. We're just going to have landfills filled with this crap instead.Also, is it legal for IKEA to do that? Like if a non-hybrid was parked there would they tow it? Same question re: maternity spots too. The specialization of parking spots is getting out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I've started manufacturing some magnetic chrome coloured lettering in the shape of "Hybrid" if anyone's thinking of visiting IKEA soonJaimoe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I've started manufacturing some magnetic chrome coloured lettering in the shape of "Hybrid" if anyone's thinking of visiting IKEA soon damn ... we were talking about doing the same thing just now at lunch ... also, someone mentioned that it's a bit problematic that this Yukon hybrid: is more deserving of a parking spot presumably intended to reward fuel efficiency than this conventional Honda Fit: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm been thinking about the ubiquity of these re-usable bags. Seems they are being produced much faster than anyone can re-use them. Stores even market their own special brand of the re-usable bag. We're just going to have landfills filled with this crap instead.They don't make as many as the plastic bags, not even close and how many people do you know throw them out rather then re-using them for something. Not to mention, hit up a store like loblaws and check how many bags they have. I bet it's something like 1000:1 (plastic:re-usable) or a ratio similar to that and the re-usable ones can take a bigger load (based on me putting more in them because they are stronger and won't break like the handles on the plastic ones and the ass making assumption that this is the case for others as well).The question also comes up, are the re-usable ones biodegradable? If so then a landfill full of them isn't as bad as a landfill full of plastic ones that will be there in a couple thousand years, in my opinion.As to the LCBO, the reason I found out was because I got some sixes and I didn't like the paper bag but had to either take it or pay $1 for the re-usable bag. I took the paper bag which now leads me to wonder, will stores start over producing those? Sure they biodegrade but they also take trees don't they (I guess they can be made out of recyclable material).Also, is it legal for IKEA to do that? Like if a non-hybrid was parked there would they tow it? Same question re: maternity spots too. The specialization of parking spots is getting out of control.I can't see why it wouldn't be legal. I'm pretty sure that since they own the property, they can have whoever they want towed away from it. As in if you park in my driveway, it's my property so I can have you towed if I want (at least I think I can, anyone know the actual rules behind this?).Besides, what's out of control about a maternity spot? I think they're great. Being preggers sucks, I know this and I can't even get pregnant. I can however walk an extra couple feet to give a pregnant lady a break. Doesn't hurt me but man, if she's near the end of her term, she sure could use a little break like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartamophone Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 The specialization of parking spots is getting out of control.Here in Victoria there is a "Smart Car only" spot on each block in the downtown. They aren't branded as such, but they are so small that Smart Cars are the only things that can fit in them. Personally, I think it's pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I can't see why it wouldn't be legal. I'm pretty sure that since they own the property, they can have whoever they want towed away from it. As in if you park in my driveway, it's my property so I can have you towed if I want (at least I think I can, anyone know the actual rules behind this?).I'd imagine that spots for the disabled are protected by accessibility laws but I don't think that would cover hybrid car drivers. I too would like input from someone in the know.Besides, what's out of control about a maternity spot?I should say I'm concerned it's going to get out of control. It started with maternity spots which aren't a bad idea but now it's hybrid car drivers, which is a "nice" idea but also a little precious. What next? Parking spots for drivers wearing all hemp clothes?We are a society of over-compartmentalization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak By Night Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 What next? Parking spots for drivers wearing all hemp clothes?they have those in Tofino! kidding aside, how pregnant does a woman have to be in order to park in one of those spots? For example, if a woman is two weeks pregnant and not showing, does she qualify to park in that prime spot?Here's something I'm not kidding about - there's an expectant mothers parking spot in front of the liquor store at Hampton Park Plaza in Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau. Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 They ran out of them some time last year. Sucks if you want to carry more than a couple of six packs home, especially if you have other carry-ables with you.I'm been thinking about the ubiquity of these re-usable bags. Seems they are being produced much faster than anyone can re-use them. Stores even market their own special brand of the re-usable bag. We're just going to have landfills filled with this crap instead.I'm not sure what you mean Ollie, are you refering to the cloth bags? I haven't used the bags the LCBO offers, but I do take the cloth grocery bags I have, and they will hold four 6-packs of cans easily, and will hold four six packs of bottles, although two bags is usually a bit more comfortable for bottles even one handing them as they are a lot more durable, especially when walking or taking the bus.Again, not sure which bags your refering to, but I can't see too many people throwing the cloth/re-usuable ones out, I've had the same ones for over two years with really no signs of wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backbacon Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Here's something I'm not kidding about - there's an expectant mothers parking spot in front of the liquor store at Hampton Park Plaza in Ottawa. Maybe it's for pregnant women who were sent to the store by their husband who's at home working on the nursery or already too drunk or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'm not sure what you mean Ollie, are you refering to the cloth bags?Not purely cloth, they seem to be made of some sort of synthetic material. I raise the point not to be a shit disturber, just an observation I've been thinking about for a while and I really do wonder if we aren't just introducing a load more of crap into the environment and not really affecting any change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phorbesie Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 esau i think he's referring to the "re-usable" bags that so many stores are now selling at the checkout in order to not use a plastic bag. they are not necessarily cloth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) Lol, good call eh? The Yukon's stats: Fuel Type: Regular MPG (city): 21 MPG (highway): 22 MPG (combined): 21 Greenhouse Gas (tonnes): 8.7 The Fit: Fuel Type: Regular MPG (city): 28 MPG (highway): 35 MPG (combined): 31 Greenhouse Gas (tonnes): 5.9 Lol, the yukon isn't quite as good as the fit, that's true, although compared to it's non-hybrid brother: Non-Hybrid Yukon: Fuel Type: Regular MPG (city): 14 MPG (highway): 20 MPG (combined): 16 Greenhouse Gas (tonnes): 11.4 That's a tough one. Does the person who forked over the extra $20,000 to get a hybrid Yukon deserve the spot or does the person who couldn't afford that and went with a fit (better on the environment anyway) deserve it more? The answer? Neither!! It's a gesture by IKEA to spread a message (and probably has some marketing value as well). It's a first step in the right direction of promoting less harmful vehicles and it sucks that the environmental initiatives they are taking garner negativity rather than positivity and optimism, excitement that if a large corporation like this can change, so can others... For those that look at this with positive eyes and feel that excitement, I say cheers Think about the whole earth hour thing. What does it accomplish? Saves power for an entire hour but moreso, and it's true purpose, it raises awareness that it can be done and that it's not as difficult as maybe people think it is... Edited April 16, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Here's something I'm not kidding about - there's an expectant mothers parking spot in front of the liquor store at Hampton Park Plaza in Ottawa. That's exactly the parking spot I had in mind when I started this rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Here's something I'm not kidding about - there's an expectant mothers parking spot in front of the liquor store at Hampton Park Plaza in Ottawa. That's exactly the parking spot I had in mind when I started this rant.and that's funny as hell. I was thinking walmart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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