I accept and would also like to offer my apologies Schwa, with regards to the prior thread. It is very hard for me not to read into some kind of agenda (I'll do my best not to from here on out) on your part especially when you bring up the Bilderberg gatherings. They bring out the fury of conspiracy theorists. Just because one doesnt hear about a meeting between individuals it is automatically deemed there was a negative connotation? I am not saying there is or isnt but consider me an individual who would prefer the leaders of their respective fields (science, mathematics, politics, whatever) get together from time to time to discuss matters they see fit. And I completely agree with Ollie. There has to be some kind of starting point. I love a good question but I like a valid one even more.