secondtube Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 wow, just bad news all around. not cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieDon'tSurf Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 it was george carlin who said, and i completely paraphrase when i was introduced to marijuana, it was like all sorts of differnet doors had been opened up, I came up with some of my best routines and, although I thought I was no good at the time, the audience laughed. Then I tried coke. Man! I was on top of the world, telling my best jokes. Only things was, the audience wasn't laughin' and on that note a long collection of Carlin quotes to cheer up the thread: Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things. One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, floor. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. If man evolved from monkeys and apes, why do we still have monkeys and apes? The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live. I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman, "Where's the self-help section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose. Could it be that all those trick-or-treaters wearing sheets aren't going as ghosts but as mattresses? If a mute swears, does his mother wash his hands with soap? If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him...is he still wrong? If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation? Is there another word for synonym? Isn't it a bit unnerving that doctors call what they do "practice?" Where do forest rangers go to "get away from it all?" What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? Would a fly without wings be called a walk? Why do they lock gas station bathrooms? Are they afraid someone will clean them? If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked? Why don't sheep shrink when it rains? Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? If the police arrest a mime, do they tell him he has the right to remain silent? Why do they put Braille on the drive-through bank machines? How do blind people know when they are done wiping? How do they get the deer to cross at that yellow road sign? Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? What was the best thing before sliced bread? One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people. To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated, but not be able to say it. Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. The older you get, the better you realize you were. Age is a very high price to pay for maturity. Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday. Women like silent men, they think they're listening. Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it. Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day. Do pediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays? Before they invented drawing boards, what did they go back to? Do infants enjoy infancy as much as adults enjoy adultery? If all the world is a stage, where is the audience sitting? If God dropped acid, would he see people? If one synchronized swimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too? If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why is it still #2? If work is so terrific, how come they have to pay you to do it? If you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry? If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done? Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 I didn't really want to comment on this death in writing, but I will anyway. I'm so disappointed with John Entwistle, but I'm not sad about his death anymore. I hate being continually disappointed in my rock heroes. Entwistle's death was so careless and preventable. It makes me very angry. I thought The Who learned their lesson with Moon. Being my favourite band, I thought Entwistle was above rock star temptations - the same could be said about Allen Woody. I guess I was wrong. I should have saw it coming. A bartender at The Duke Of Gloucester told me 2 months ago that his parents knew the Entwistles, and that John's wife is a coke-head. I thought: " Well, John certainly can't be one too ". There hasn't been any reports that Entwistle was into the " stuff " - and I've read several biographies on the band's members. I was wrong. I hate coke-heads. They can live in their little world, thinking they're invincible. Pretending they're not hurting anyone. Entwistle was a fucking fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 The whole "rock star death-by-overdose" thing is getting pretty old, almost cliche. It just goes to show how weak and stupid some of these idiots are - sure they can play a mean guitar or whatever, but other than that, they're just plain retarted. Jim Morrison Janis Joplin Ron McKernan Curt Kobain John Entwistle Keith Moon dude from blind melon Jerry (RIP) blah blah etc. etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Wish Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 "Dude from Blind Melon" was Shannon Hoon. A bright light snuffed out way too soon. Their debut album is to this day one of my all time favorite, desert island cds. Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by weezy: The whole "rock star death-by-overdose" thing is getting pretty old, almost cliche. It just goes to show how weak and stupid some of these idiots are - sure they can play a mean guitar or whatever, but other than that, they're just plain retarted. Jim Morrison Janis Joplin Ron McKernan Curt Kobain John Entwistle Keith Moon dude from blind melon Jerry (RIP) blah blah etc. etc... Dee Dee Ramone Danny Whitton (CrazyHorse) Gram Parsons Steve Clark (Def Leppard) Brent Mydland Bon Scott (AC/DC) Brian Jones Jimi Hendrix care to add to this most awful of lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Some related deaths compared to Entwistle: Shannen Hoon, Ted Demme ( director of Blow... go figure? ); Brent Mydland; Bobby Sheehan ( Blues Traveller ); that dude from Def Leppard; Len Bias - #2 pick overall by Boston Celtics in 1986 ( the one that really started the ball rolling with me in reference to starting to be disappointed in heroes ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treyter Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 to be frank...can i be frank? i've done my fair share and then some. i can't really say if yayo is bad or good for anyone else, but i am a glutton, so it wasn't very good for me (i mean i had tons...yes TONS, of fun on/with that shit, and in retrospect i really don't regret much of that year-and i lost everything)...it was a hell of an experience and i learned a lot about myself and the world in the process. here's the thing about coke addiction: when you hit rock bottom, you have to decide whether or not you like the person you are at that moment, and whether the scene you're in is really your style....the problem with all these rock-stars is that they don't hit rock-bottom (unless they die), because they can just buy more, and the scene is what they are supposed to be and want to be (i mean they DID work their whole life to be a rockstar right?). the normal (broke) people that can hit rock bottom and start to lie, cheat, steal, and do other immoral things for their habit are weak in the mind, and soul. it's pathetic really. one of the smartest, and strongest things i have ever done for myself was to get on a train that fateful morning and not look back. so jaimoe, don't be too dissapointed with your heroes dude...it takes all kinds, and when you're in their position, it is much tougher to kick than the average joe. instant gratification is a bitch sometimes. one word of advice to anyone that does partake---don't poke or smoke. oh and one more thing: "why you got some?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 john bonham but he choked on his own vomit...can't really dust for vomit. btw, pigpen didn't OD. he died of complications due to liver disease did he not...pig never did drugs...just drank like he was irish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 don't forget keith godchaux...car acident but still very sad. also how many musicians have died in plane/motorcycle accidents...spooky. bill graham, buddy holly, berry oakley, duane allman, ronnie van zant...the BIG BOPPER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Wish Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Harry Chapin (some kind of crash), Ian Curtis of Joy Division, Layne Staley, Andrew Wood of Mother Love Bone (and in doubling the sorrow his death created- led to the creation of Pearl Jam), Michael Hutchence, Brian Jones and Marvin Gaye (sure his dad shot him, but drugs killed this guy long before he died). Wow the list goes on and on..... Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezy Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 riiiight.. thanks for the corrections - I couldn't remember Shannon Hune's name... and pigpen - ya, liver disease, southern comfort etc... Brent is a good example - people said that he always had this "new guy" complex - brought on by the Dead's long-time road crew especially. I think this, added to a low self-esteem and freebasing/speedballing rock cocaine is probably what killed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieDon'tSurf Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 and yada, yada.... the lists are just that, lists of those of us who made one stupid decision too many...remember them for what they did in life, not how they wound up a stinkin' corpse in a bathtub/pool/nightclub... quote: one of the smartest, and strongest things i have ever done for myself was to get on a train that fateful morning and not look back. keep on ridin', baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 pointless wasted bloody shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 Hey Hood. When you took the " right road " I was quite proud of you. Now, if only you could slow down that driving of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treyter Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 there's always gotta be something with you eh Jaimoe??? ahhhh...it's good to have goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 quote: Originally posted by treyter: ahhhh...it's good to have goals More precisely: it's always good to score...GOOOAAALLLL!!! Aloha, Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 26, 2002 Report Share Posted July 26, 2002 I'm just looking out for you Pigpen Jr.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treyter Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 thanks bro. i got your back too mon ami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPhish Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Hank Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 When I was much younger, I used to wonder why these two could have the nerve to mock coke so much............. I almost thought they were hypocrites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Entwistle died of coke-induced heart attack LAS VEGAS (AP) John Entwistle, 57-year-old bass player for the rock band The Who, died from a heart attack caused by cocaine use, the Clark County, Nev., coroner said Thursday. Coroner Ron Flud ruled the death accidental and said it was not an overdose. "The heart attack we believe was brought on by the significant amount of cocaine" that was in Entwistle's system at the time of death, he said. The exact amount of the drug remains unknown. "Cocaine is a different animal," Flud said. "It's not like alcohol. There's no way we can put a number on it." "You've got a lethal drug on board at the time you have a bad heart. That's a bad combination." Entwistle's body was found in his bed at the Hard Rock Hotel on June 27, one day before the band was scheduled to kick off a three-month U.S. tour at the hotel's concert hall. Hotel officials declined comment Thursday. District Attorney Stewart Bell said no criminal charges were anticipated. "From a legal point of view, there isn't anything to be done because we don't have anybody else who might be responsible," he said. Entwistle was one of the band's founders. Another original member, drummer Keith Moon, died in 1978 of a drug overdose at the age of 32. Authorities said he took too many pills prescribed to control his alcoholism. Entwistle's death was caused when cocaine caused the contraction of coronary arteries that were already damaged by heart disease, Flud said. After the death, a musician in Entwistle's own band said he had been on medication for a heart condition. The Who, founded in London in the early 1960s, was part of the British rock invasion along with the Rolling Stones and the Beatles. Their parade of hits included I Can See For Miles, I Can't Explain, Substitute, Pinball Wizard, Won't Get Fooled Again and Who Are You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieDon'tSurf Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 ... go figure! Guess that's why his ghost visited those oasis bullocks... looking for a cheap score from starry-eyed, talentless wannabees... i think the busted bass string was a 'not-so-subtle' hint to keep their rip-offs exclusive to the Beatles and leave The Who unmarred by listless covers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 Coke. Never tried it, never want to. I know its a stereotype, and I personally know musicians who betray this stereotype and I'd love to shake it, but I have gotten to the point where basically whenever I see a musician of any sort of success, be it regional, national, or international, I find myself speculating that they're probably quite familiar with the stuff. Not necessarily ON IT at the time, or maybe, but really rather familiar with it. And the crew. And the managers. And the promoters. And the DJs. And the people working the phones at the record label. From the local guitar player to the top international superstars, it's just everywhere. It always has been, and it seems it always will be. It must be such a temptation because from everything I've heard about it, it's a functional drug, enhancing front-lobe activity of the brain and makes the user feel rather creative, alert and engaged, even if they're not. I always remember an interview with David Crosby in Dupree's Diamond News (c. 1994) where he bemoaned his introduction to the white powder, speculating that THAT was what conditioned him to take it further and harder as he went on. He wished he had just stuck with the green and psychedelics. Poor John Entwistle. I don't believe for a second that these aging rock stars have cleaned up their acts, for the most part. I just think they've learned the media game about not bragging about it anymore. Of course, this is just my speculation based on 15 years of rock-star-watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted July 27, 2002 Report Share Posted July 27, 2002 you reading this trey??? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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