MoMack Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Age old argument Jay. What's in it for the fans to buy tickets early? If it is well known that the show will not sell out - absolutely nothing. If the promoters really wanted to get people on board early, they would do what festys do - sell early bird tickets for cheaper. Why don't they do that? $$$$. So they gotta pick their poison - either sell tickets early for cheaper, or wait until the show not knowing if they are going to make any money.It's not OUR responsibility to make money for promoters by buying tickets early and "pledging" our support. The market dictates whether a show will be well supported or not.In fairness, I think what Jay was saying is that it seems like these shows are generally well supported but not until the last minute. He's giving us the heads up/option and saying look - LiveNation doesn't like risks and so if you want these shows to happen then make it less risky and get off your lazy hippy asses and buy a ticket, especially if you know you're going.Nothing wrong with that. I'll do everything I can to make them want to bring the acts here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 To continue, whats in it for the fans is that we get to have Panic here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Well put Basher. I agree with you entirely. What IS in it for the fans who shell out their cash months ahead of time? They need to do more early-bird ticket deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 If the band is WSP caliber, i'll buy ahead of time, every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Yup, i didn't want to take the "risk" of a weekend show in the summer relatively close to the US border being a possible big draw and getting shut out. I bought my 2 tix at Rotate This (and saved around $10 per ticket avoiding the "convenience" of TicketBastard ). Not many other tix that I bought in advance this summer (Phil Lesh, Rush, Clapton, WSP). The other shows I'll be hitting will be free (Buffalo and Niagara) or purchasing tix at the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Well put Basher. I agree with you entirely. What IS in it for the fans who shell out their cash months ahead of time? They need to do more early-bird ticket deals.The flip is whats in it for the band/promoter? Why bother with Toronto if they can't gage interest based on pre-sales. Can't be sure whether they should change venues. Whether they'll turn a profit etc. etc.Toronto is a fickle market.I'm happy as a pig in shit that WSP is finally back here after 11 years.And lets be honest - even if they went the "early-bird" route, it'd take about all of 5 seconds before it turned into you having to buy the "early-birds" to get what we consider the regular price.Plus, the bands have a big say in the ticket prices. Or at least Panic does in theres, and thats why its so damn low compared to most of whats going on out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phorbesie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I'm happy as a pig in shit that WSP is finally back here after 11 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakis Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 And lets be honest - even if they went the "early-bird" route, it'd take about all of 5 seconds before it turned into you having to buy the "early-birds" to get what we consider the regular price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Funk Dawg Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I think everyone has a fair point. Live Nation however is the largest concert promoter in Toronto - they are the big guns who decide what concerts happen at Molson Amphitheatre, Kool Haus as well as Sound Academy, Opera House, Massey Hall etc... When interest seems low after putting tickets on sale for a couple of weeks - Live Nation can decide to cancel the show if they feel it will not perform to expectations. As a Widespread Fan I would hate for the show to get canceled if the interest was there - but the audience/fans just hadn't bought tickets until the last minute.I think the poor performance of Phil Lesh and Friends a couple years back at Molson Amphitheatre cause House of Blues (now Live Nation) to reconsider that type of programming.To set the record straight - I am not the promoter on this show - I am however a promotional partner helping to show that there is a market for this music in Toronto. This market doesn't respond to the promotion that Live Nation normally does - i.e. ads in the newspaper and adds on q107 etc... So I am helping bring street and web marketing to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phorbesie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 is wsp in danger of being cancelled still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Funk Dawg Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 The show is happening! I am only stressing that poor advance ticket sales was threatening a cancellation. Looks like things have picked up and WSP is going be ready to rock Toronto. I would say that anyone planning on going should get tickets as soon as possible.jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phorbesie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 woohoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol'Hickster Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Fuck I shoudl really get on the ball then and get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 The show is happening! Looks like things have picked up and WSP is going be ready to rock Toronto. I would say that anyone planning on going should get tickets as soon as possible.jay wow, does that mean it's close to a sell out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woo. Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Well the show better be happening!!!I already got my plane tix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 I thought about a WSP Canada Day. Sure as hell should have done it too:Set 1 - Proving Ground > Driving Song > Can't Find My Way Home > Driving Song > Proving Ground > Action Man, From The Cradle > Proving Ground > Genesis > Jam > All Time Low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 that is redonk...i hope we get something 1/2 that good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 A four corned in the second set taboot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 that is redonk...i hope we get something 1/2 that good...They'll have nothing left for you after the 4th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 that is redonk...i hope we get something 1/2 that good...They'll have nothing left for you after the 4th!Thats what my wife says too!Maybe we'll just have to do Ottawa, Rochester and Boston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Funk Dawg Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 Hype it! We're in for a great show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bONES Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 hype bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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