phishtaper Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 can we have a thread about sarah palin again? im tired of having to read all these "-isms" and "-ologies" in the other threads in politics. my head hurts when i come in here lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 "Giddy Up!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.O.B.E Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Palin Signs Alaska Sovereignty ResolutionPosted on 13 July 2009by Michael BoldinOn Friday, July 10th, Alaska Governor Sarah Palin signed House Joint Resolution 27 (HJR27), sponsored by State Rep. Mike Kelly. The resolution “claims sovereignty for the state under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.â€The House passed the resolution by a vote of 37-0 (3 not voting) and the Senate passed it by a vote of 40-0.Six other states have had both houses of their legislature pass similar resolutions - Tennessee, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma and Louisiana - Alaska joins Tennessee as the second to have such a resolution signed by the Governor.A GROWING MOVEMENTPassage of this resolution appears to be part of what is now a growing state-level resistance to the federal government on various levels. Similar 10th Amendment resolutions have been introduced in 37 states around the country, and various states are considering single-issue legislation in direct contravention to federal laws.Most recently, the Arizona Legislature passed a measure for public approval on the 2010 state ballot that would give Arizona voters the opportunity to nullify, or opt out, of any potential national health care legislation.Since 2007, more than two dozen states have passed legislation refusing to implement the Real ID act of 2005. In response, the federal government has recently announced that they want to “repeal and replace†the law due to a rebellion by states.Pending legislation in states around the country also includes preventing state law enforcement officials from enforcing federal laws, refusing federal gun regulations, refusing to send a state’s national guard to any duty other than what the constitution authorizes, legalizing marijuana for various purposes and more.A FIRST STEPWhile HJR27 is strongly-word in support of the principles of limited, constitutional government that the 10th Amendment represents, it is a Joint Resolution and does not carry with it the force of law. But supporters say that this is an important first step to get their message out not only to grassroots supporters, but to the media, and legislators in other states as well.Read the final version of the resolution below:Relating to the Sovereign Powers of the StateBE IT RESOLVED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF ALASKA:WHEREAS the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the peopleâ€; andWHEREAS the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; andWHEREAS some federal actions weaken states’ rights protected by the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; andWHEREAS the Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp; andWHEREAS art. IV, sec. 4, Constitution of the United States, reads, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,†and the Ninth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads, “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the peopleâ€; andWHEREAS the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S.Ct. 2408 (1992), that the United States Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; andWHEREAS all states, including Alaska, find themselves regularly facing proposals from the United States Congress that weaken states’ rights protected by the Tenth Amendment;BE IT RESOLVED that the Alaska State Legislature hereby claims sovereignty for the state under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States; and be itFURTHER RESOLVED that this resolution serves as Notice and Demand to the federal government to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.COPIES of this resolution shall be sent to the Honorable Barack Obama, President of the United States; the Honorable Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Vice-President of the United States and President of the U.S. Senate; the Honorable Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives; the Honorable Lisa Murkowski and the Honorable Mark Begich, U.S. Senators, and the Honorable Don Young, U.S. Representative, members of the Alaska delegation in Congress; all other members of the 111th United States Congress; the presiding officers of the legislatures of each of the other 49 states; and the governors of each of the other 49 states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 and they said rené lévesque was a renegade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 im tired of having to read all these "-isms" and "-ologies" in the other threads in politics. I tried to dumb it down a bit by talking about neck punches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 The neck is definitely the best place to punch someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Ooo! Ooo! David Frum and Ann Coulter fighting about Sarah Palin How anyone puts up with Ann Coulter is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I love Ann Coulter.the 'liberal' counterpoints never counter effectively. People need to lighten the fuck up to take her down a notch. She pushes buttons and nobody actually talks with her. Once somebody does then it'll be interesting, but the 'liberal' counterpoints probably wouldn't care to have anyone have an open mind about her.How most people put up with Ann Coulter being consistently argued poorly is beyond me.Demand begets supply from time to time y'know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 short soundbyte discussions are awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Of course, but that's about all Ann Coulter is good at. She cannot engage in genuine inquiry and argument, any more than the other windbags in her camp can. She's just a big noise, whose idea of winning arguments is shouting other people down. At least David Frum - who politically I couldn't have bigger differences from - gets what the basic protocols of human conversation involve, which is what lets him be a smarter guy than someone like Coulter. I can't believe I'm saying something nice about David Frum . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 She doesn't shout people down, she has lengthy arguments that people always interrupt...She does talk over people but she's a loudmouth. she wasn't shouting...If you're talking about discussions on TV News programs and networks, then you should probably stop talking about genuine inquiry and argument right now cause we both know that's not the point...unless, of course, you're talking about the CBC. That's at least closer than CBS and CNN.Much of what Coulter's arguments revolve around are sound and are generally challenging to the 'status quo' while her arguments seem to really want to support the status quo...the former being approach to, and the latter being the content/quality. While it shouldn't need to be harped on about, it is true that a voter expects a governor to be resigned to being in office, not leaving office. Coulter's commentary that dismisses that, with the demand that we move on to other realities and not discussion already widely accepted, acknowledged, and admitted values, serves to get Bay Buchanan flustered. It is kinda funny that she kept on interrupting Buchanan to correct her but it's also rude and aggressive...it sells books. Frum just sits back and waits his turn unlike Buchanan who just barks in to try to rudely interrupt.He gets a great last word (of the clip) and leaves me impressed.I don't side with most of what Coulter says, but whenever I see her in an interview and not a stupid TV News spot I always feel rather impressed at a media figure that seems to be bent on being politically incorrect.If nobody challenges us to think differently (in many ways) then we never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm not saying anything against contrary opinions. I'm just saying that when everybody goes into a four-minute (or whatever it was) dialogue, then basic human decency would have people rein themselves in so that other people get time to talk, too. She's a professional, supposedly - surely she could self-edit her talking points down to time. But she doesn't - she would arrogate the whole time to herself if allowed. That's what I find so absurd. It's not conversation - it's bombast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I wouldn't say it's BASIC human decency. if it were BASIC human decency then there are probably bigger fish to fry with Ann Coulter.How is it up to her and not up to the CBS' producers to understand that when getting her on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Palin's Resignation: The Edited Version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Palin's Resignation: The Edited Version :grin: - as someone who has to do this kind of redaction for a living, I thank you . Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 The best part is where the editor asks her to [please specify]... so obvious they're loosing patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hilarious that Coulter calls her a 'quick study' while it really seems like she NEEDS TO study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Palin's final speech was a thing of poetic beauty...And who does poetry better than Shatner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak By Night Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Some jerk-wad is trying to sell his Palin-signed X-box for $1.1 million! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 it's amazing there are people like this in the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Lots of people want to talk about Palin. Just listen to these humans with brains: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Wow... if I hadn't been laughing my head off, that would have been really, really scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Oh... my... gawd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 should I keep watching past 0:38? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted November 26, 2009 Report Share Posted November 26, 2009 Marg Delahunty tries to talk with Sarah Palin Nope. Ain't gonna happen.When I think of all the old hits Walsh used to do on Canadian politicians, I feel a certain warmth about living in this country, no matter how fucked up our politicians may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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