gentlemonkey Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 On Parliament Hill, 1-4pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 There are rallies happening all over Canada on January 23, 2010 protesting the Proroguing Parliament and suspending democracy.Look at the website http://noprorogue.ca/ for rallies in your area.I am a member of the Oakville District Labour Council so I will be at the rally in Oakville.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 There is one at Chainsaw Bar & Grill (the old Silver Spur) in Waterloo....thanks Deeps I'll be out of town but would surely be going if I knew about it earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 If I owned a restaurant I'd have a proroguie special until mar 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Can someone explain pro-rogue to me in rubberdinghy terms....Everything on the interweeb is confusing me...Pierogies on the other hand...Clocktower Pub does them fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I think it's simple enough Dinghy.As I understand it, to prorogue Parliament is to suspend it, essentially close down the doors, and any bills before Parliament die when proroguing occurs. Again, the bills are not merely suspended, they die and thus would have to be started all over again. So, not only does it mean all the MPs and Ministers and Harper himself get a bonus 5-6 week paid vacation, it also means anything they had been working on becomes a retrospective waste of time and money.It's not as rare as it seems. I've read that Chretien prorogued Parliament and Trudeau did it quite often, though I had never heard of it until Harper did it. I think doing it twice in a row for the reasons he invoked is getting people upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 all the MPs and Ministers and Harper himself get a bonus 5-6 week paid vacationYeah, that's the part that really grinds my gears. They shouldn't be allowed to do this, but I suppose since they make the laws they can do whatever they want. How about extending the vacation to all canadians, or forgoing a salary when their not working like the rest of canadians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 To be fair, the response to Haiti has been very well done - hard to accuse anyone in government of taking a vacation in the past 8 days. Not to mention lots of stuff going on on the homefront (airport scanners, other transport scares), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Rick Mercer's rant this week was pretty good.bltxQTxIImo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 My big issue with the prorogue is that Bill C-6 was set to go through Parliament to be voted on after ammendments/changes from the Senate. Now that bill's cooked, the incredibly perverted passages will most likely be found somewhere else in a future bill that may quite easily go under the radar. We almost beat it this time and now it's set to reappear somewhere else.So not only is it a huge waste of time and energy, but now there is growing concern that this absolute lack of respect for democracy by our own elected officials will not only continue but will become far more underhanded and sneaky in the future.Maybe it's time to scrap it all and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 So, how is this allowed to happen...Is there a vote or does the PM just say "Aw Fuck it, I'm not happy, let's prorogue?"So bill C-6 is finished...what's to stop it from being passed again in a few years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 The PM just says "Aw fuck it," although he has to ask permission from the GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Belive it or not, it's like your boss came in today and said, "all busses are off the road until March, everybody go home with pay, nobody will really care." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 (edited) An even better article by Rick from globe and mail Jan. 5th.Toronto rally - this Saturday - Dundas Square - 1 PMStephen Harper is a douchebag.http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/proroguing-is-for-children-and-stephen-harper/article1420026/ Edited January 21, 2010 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Wish Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 6 weeks paid!Can we start a facebook group now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Do you guys really believe they're all off on holidays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 No one said it was a vacation. Or those who did were simply trying to understand why. We're saying it's undemocratic and demonstrates and incredible degree of contempt for the citizens of this country and parliament. Moreover, the justification that the gov't needs to "recalibrate" sounds hollow and plainly self-interested. 37.7% of the popluar vote gets to decide when the gov't does and does not sit. I call bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Bouche and Velvet both said it was a vacation. A lot of the popular discourse describes this as a vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I believe they are on vacation. Whether or not they go to Hawaii I don't know, but where I come from, when you get time off from work with pay you are either on vacation or you're a bad police officer. AD, do you believe they are all at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I can see on the news and read in the papers that many are still working. There is more to the job than sitting in the House. I'm against prorogation (in this case) to be clear, but it's not accurate to say they're on vacation either. Besides, the public service does all the work anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Besides, the public service does all the work anyways. Chug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Now...my other question is...Why is he doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 So that the 'gutted' C-6 sneaks in as another bill next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Why would anyone want the C6 bill to pass anyways...It doesn't look so nice...isn't this a good thing then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 official reason (among others) - "let's all enjoy the Olympics"real reason (among others) - "holy shit this Afghan detainee issue isn't going away." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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