I was talking about the players. Its like they're in complete denial, superficially at least, of where they stand in the league. Why not say, "we got our clocks cleaned by a really good team, hopefully we can learn by it", rather than just making silly excuses. Not sure it would help them any, but Id respect them more. They act like every time they lose miserably its cuz of some unforseen force that unfairly stepped in and ruined their party. Maybe if the players started complaining about the other players, some things would change. Of course, it doesnt help having their captain talk about winning the cup here all the freakin time. Maybe thats my problem. Theres no dissent coming from their f'n locker room. Its like everythings all fine and dandy, and if we just squeek into that last spot, hey you never know what can happen, look at Edmonton 2 years ago.