Wind Energy in Ontario

[questcequecest?]

heres your update hippies: the government announced 975MW in green energy contracts today as a result of the recent renewables II rfp

everybody breathe easy...

article

more details

pdf map of new projects

that is all, good news!

[Blane]

and in more good news, Maple Leaf foods will be opening Canada's first biodiesel processing plant in Montreal in the next year, helping ot make our highways smell like french fries and popcorn while saving the planet!

[Ms.Huxtable]

"10% of Ontario’s generation coming from renewable sources by 2010.†Now that's some good news.

[Tooly]

it could be 50% i reckon, but people bitch about the wind towers, saying that the kill too many birds, shit man which would you rather have; sea gulls galore, or free hydro....

i am extremely glad that this is moving foward

[Lazlo]

and in more good news, Maple Leaf foods will be opening Canada's first biodiesel processing plant in Montreal in the next year, helping ot make our highways smell like french fries and popcorn while saving the planet!

Has Maple Leaf finally found something to do with all the rotten animal bits other than contaminating the ground water.

[Dr_Evil_Mouse]

I think it's Maple Leaf that has been working out an acceptable industrialised halal slaughter system; at least the animals getting churned out as car exhaust will have been given a moment's consideration at some point .

[AdamH]

and in more good news' date=' Maple Leaf foods will be opening Canada's first biodiesel processing plant in Montreal in the next year, helping ot make our highways smell like french fries and popcorn while saving the planet![/quote']

Has Maple Leaf finally found something to do with all the rotten animal bits other than contaminating the ground water.

Possibly the best thing you've ever said.

Mind you I'm all for waste reduction (or re-deployment as it were) even for those fackers at maple Leaf. Who should be shot. For selling pre-marinated pot roasts.

[badams]

Wind Power in Kingston

[Dr_Evil_Mouse]

Pessimism fading... cynicism... crumbling... must... turn on... Lowell... Green....

[Davey Boy 2.0]

very cool stuff, i wonder how many birds will end up flying into the turbones though. hopefully not too many species @ risk

maple leafs suck

[Blane]

the new technologies are taking care of those risks. Recent turbine developments are allowing the blades to turn more and more slowly to the point where they're hardly a risk to most birds. I'm sure if the money is there for R&D (ie. gov't are buying into wind) then it will continue to improve.

[Schwa.]

They must have NO birds in Holland.

[Tooly]

well you equate how many bird deaths (very few) to power generated (alot) and it doesnt take a mathmetician to figure out that wind powers the way to go

holland has a ton of their towers set up in the water, perhaps theres less birds out that way?

i think if they stuck a wind farm in lake superior we would be styling, it gets windy as fuck out there.

i remember reading an article recently about some toronto group protesting more wind towers because the seagulls were dying, is that what toronto wants? more flying rats? i can personally take some stupid gulls from hamilton and transfer them to toronto if it does become an issue.

[Alexis]

maybe they could take all the dead birds from the turbines and send them to mapleleaf to turn into biodiesel? or hotdogs....

[livingstoned]

They must have NO birds in Holland.

good point...

and FURTHERMORE - BIRDS? BIRDS?? are there really any more birds flying into these then say tall buildings in cities???

Perhaps I'm wrong on this but I wouldn't think there would be.

Who are the people opposed to this anyway? Who are they? I want to meet them.

[livingstoned]

nevermind I found this....

http://web.syr.edu/~bpburtt/Birds/Aug08-04.htm

no need to read it all:

For example, birds die when they collide with a building, a house or its windows. About 4 die each year per building. I know that in a year, about 20 birds hit my big picture window as they mistake the reflection for part of the scenery. Most are able to fly away, but 4 or 5 die. Thus my house is about average.

Counting all the buildings and houses in the United States, about 400 million birds are killed each year by hitting buildings and windows. Buildings kill more birds than other structures.

Collisions with powerlines cause about 85 million deaths. This is about 175 per mile of wire.

Cars, trucks and buses kill about 70 million birds per year. That is a lot of birds, but taking into account the number of cars, on the average, it means that my car kills a bird every other year.

The TV and radio towers cause the death of about 20 million birds per year. Each tower kills about 300 per year. This happens most often when birds are migrating at night and bad weather and clouds force the birds to fly nearer the earth. A TV or radio tower mounted on a high point is thus a serious hazard and the guy wires take their toll. Steadily burning lights on the towers seem to attract the birds as well.

Wind turbines kill about 2 to 4 birds per tower per year depending on where the tower is placed and how it is constructed. About 45,000 birds are killed each year at turbines about the country. This knowledge comes from careful carcass counts at existing wind plants.

Edited November 22, 2005 by Guest

[tribalstar]

go wind energy!!

Go french frymobiles

[Lazlo]

If a bird's stupid enough to fly into a large anything, spinning or otherwise it deserves what it gets.

[Groove Fetish]

and then on the flip side- not to put on a damper on the positive thread- since this is a very positive move regardless- I did come across this article today.

short piece on Nuclear Power talk coming up @ Mcmaster U

not my personal fav choice in energy production but it seems more are interested in it again.

I'm pretty sure that unlike the article and a recent TV commercial series seem to want us to believe, this issue is far from clean. Especially with regard to the waste disposal concern.

Any thoughts?

[Schwa.]

Cars, trucks and buses kill about 70 million birds per year

great song.

[SevenSeasJim]

A company (WindPower Gen) wanted to build a test site on the shores of Georgian Bay just north of Parry Sound, but were denied because the people who have cottages (who spend a few weeks per year at them) cried about the birds and noise pollution (what fucking noise pollution). It's funny how the rich people in southern Ontario dictate what's right for the rest of us.

[timouse]

and then on the flip side- not to put on a damper on the positive thread- since this is a very positive move regardless- I did come across this article today.

short piece on Nuclear Power talk coming up @ Mcmaster U

not my personal fav choice in energy production but it seems more are interested in it again.

I'm pretty sure that unlike the article and a recent TV commercial series seem to want us to believe, this issue is far from clean. Especially with regard to the waste disposal concern.

Any thoughts?

listen to Helen Caldicott.

she is the most compelling anti-nuclear activist i have ever heard. 2 points that stuck with me...considering the energy cost to mine, transport and refine uranium, a reactor has to run for something like 18 years to become "carbon-neutral," that is to not be contributing greenhouse gas to the environment. the 2nd was the evils of depleted uranium weaponry used all over the planet by the United Snakes.