Ocelot Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Oops thats Northern Wish posting..... stupid 'public computers'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 their definitive mode is rocking out with their cocks out.I think you said something about them being "stoner rock" during the ride up, and I kind of agree.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau. Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Plants And Animals better become the new Slip. How is that even possible? Granted' date=' they are a very good and rocking three piece, but they have nowhere near the level of skill or talent as The Slip. [/quote']Why isn't it possible? I would tend to believe your brother meant in terms of popularity here at jambands or dare I say, within the music scene we all enjoy. Afterall, they are a Canadian band, and a good one at that, worthy of support just as much as some transplanted American band. As for skill & talent, I'd hope the Slip would have the upperhand being around a near decade longer to hone their talents and sound. As for comparing the two, and with a mere > I guess I could easily say OCMS > Slip. See where I am going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Stoner Rock? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 Esau > bouche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted September 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 [Why isn't it possible? I would tend to believe your brother meant in terms of popularity here at jambands or dare I say, within the music scene we all enjoy. Afterall, they are a Canadian band, and a good one at that, worthy of support just as much as some transplanted American band. yes, that is entirely possible. I'd love to see Plants and Animals open for The Slip. Then in context, you could say Plants and Animals > Slip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted September 11, 2009 Report Share Posted September 11, 2009 I guess vocals, song-writing and ability to make a good record don't equate to skill and talent?And stoner rock? Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 You're right that the album is very strong. However would the band have gone as far as they have without being shortlisted for the Polaris? Further would they have been shortlisted for the Polaris without a necessity to represent Quebecois groups thereby benefiting from two layers of cancon insulation. These are not so much criticisms as reasonable acknowledgements of some of the benefits P&A has received by being (understandably) critical darlings in a self-serving parochial market like Canada (that has, yes, produced a reasonable number of international phenomenas as of late and of course historically). They're no Chilliwack though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 They made the music and the album before the Polaris nomination, and before anyone made them 'critical darlings'You spoke of a necessity to include Quebecois groups for the Polaris award, and whether that's true or not is debatable - What I don't understand is the necessity to compare and rank them to a very different band. If we're gonna go that route, well, Slip, what have you done for me lately? I used to love you, but aren't you a chronic underachiever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I don't disagree with anything you've said AD. But yes there is clearly an effort to include Quebecois and francophone artists like Malajube in the past- those groups likely deserve inclusion but there does seem to be some sort of quota. As far as chronic underachievement that's a pretty legit criticism. I found myself telling Brad that this new trio with Sarah (as of this afternoon he was leaning towards Anglo Berio although I think Anglo Barrios makes a hell of a lot more sense) had a new fire in his belly. To which he asked 'so I didn't have a fire in my belly for awhile'. I left that one largely unanswered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOutGuy Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 mtoh wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I found myself telling Brad that this new trio with Sarah had a new fire in his belly. To which he asked 'so I didn't have a fire in my belly for awhile'. I left that one largely unanswered.Let's hope he and whoever he finds himself playing with can add a few more logs to the fire and get back on his / their game! His instrumental guitar album had some great tracks on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I know it's been said but the almost entirely there for P&A audience seemed genuinely moved and marvelled that it was 'only 3 people up there'. I heard some knowledgeable remarks also that this material engendered itself better to Brad's sometimes winnowing voice (a common criticism as perhaps the sole reason they haven't accomplished more critically or economically). Hopefully that plays itself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I know what you're getting at with the US vs Cancon economies of scale, but I don't think it holds any water in this case. See Parc Avenue getting an 8.0 from Pitchfork and Eisenhower not even getting a review for an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsamuel3 Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 with all the press that eisenhower got it makes such little sense that pitchfork of all sites didn't do a review. it was easily the best album of 2006. i was really happy to see P&A getting written up in pitchfork thoughbrad has so much damn material, he needs to be releasing stuff with ALL of his bands. i never understand why he is so hesitant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 with all the press that eisenhower got it makes such little sense that pitchfork of all sites didn't do a review. it was easily the best album of 2006. it was easily the best Slip album of 2006... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 I didn't know about the Pitchfork 8.0 but it does countermand a lot of what I was saying. Look at the same point I can't see P&A engendering the kind of loyalty the Slip have in their fanbase which stretches across remote pockets of North America and they're no slouches in Japan (The Slippers!). Perhaps as we all know they're best as a live band, perhaps a band with the pejorative 'jamband' tag can never get its due, likely as we all know Eisenhower wasn't a superior product despite the workshopping of the songs live and their many epic renditions. Remember too that for all of it's arbiter of coolness it's not like Pitchfork doesn't wear it's biases very boldly on their sleeve. The Slip just ain't their cup of tea. Even with a killer album I could still see the inevitable 'guitar wank', 'jamband', 'noodle dance', 'great unwashed' references littering a review which is just lazy and again speaks to their bias. Sure Pitchfork is a great guide and almost always on the ball but they like a certain sort of music and are very exacting in their swift dismissals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero Posted September 12, 2009 Report Share Posted September 12, 2009 Oh and calling Black Mountain 'stoner rock' is a great compliment whenever I've heard it bandied about. Same should be true of P&A and they get the 'prog' label tossed freely but seem to have avoided the downside of that equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipzoso Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Faerie: Feedback: Mercy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsamuel3 Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 any video footage of the bros. Barr & Sarah from that night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipzoso Posted September 29, 2009 Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 Sorry I did not film any of their set. Kinda wish I had, but at same time things were a bit unorganized and late getting there, for me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2009 nice job on the footage mixing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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