Nope. Referring to myself. Just cuz I dont agree with you on this, doesnt mean you can lump me in with "high, holy hippie-types." I dont even own a bike, I eat at McDicks from time to time and I watch a ton of TV. If I were to generalize as you have Id say that its a shame everyone on this board seems old and jaded and seems to just take the other side because they have gotten sick of having morals and ethics (and its a lot easier to just go along with things than it is to question). But would that really be fair?