Fair enough. I guess Im just really intrigued by the whole issue. For example, I've lived with a vegetarian for almost 10 years now and I've observed her struggles during that time. My family (mostly extended, but to a certain extent the immediate as well) seems to be in denial of it. They will serve her dishes with meat all the time and when she reminds them that she's a vegetarian they all seem to act like she's a teenager who's just going through a phase. I guess this has lead me to learn an awful lot about it on my own and formally in school and I find that the main arguments people have for eating meat are largely based on myth and really have no ground. "We need meat to survive" "We need meat to evolve" "Vegetables have feelings too" etc., etc., So, I've learned about something that, when done properly, leades to longer life spans, lower obesity rates, lower heart disease rates, and lower high blood pressure rates, and decreases digestive problems. The idea of everyone eating meat that is free range and raised locally is nice enough in theory, but in practice it can't work. I forget the exact stats, but it's impossible to feed the world on local farms ( if you need me to dig up the source I will) - so we do need factory farming. The problem is that we're using it to produce meat. And even if we could go local it would require everyone in the developed world to eat considerably less meat than what is currently consumed and just looking around, that aint gonna happen any time soon. So, ya, Im not trying to convince anyone either, but an argument was thrown out there for us to discuss and Im discussing it. No harm in that, I think.