richbass Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) I am sure someone had mentioned this. Is anyone out there hitting that up? There are a bunch of people coming out.ZAPPA PLAYS ZAPPAJuly 4th - Elements - Kitchener 8PM!July 5th - Ottawa Blues Fest with Adrian Belew openeing up, maybe he'll join Dweezil?Belew has some awesome solo stuff with Les Claypool & Danny Carey, if you haven't heard it!I think his touring band now is a power trio of a brother & sister that are 17 years old.Check out Side Four (Live)Dweezil stuck around last time for a couple hours to talk to people and sign, he's a good man.See you there!? Edited June 30, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 fuckin' eh. i totally want to see zappa zappa zappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Wish Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Top of my list. I've been listening to all Frank all the time for days.......I tried dropping some random Frank quotes on you the other night Mike- but the Uncle Sam had taken hold.S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 ADRIAN BELEW~! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richbass Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Yea me too, in preparation for the show. Got 3 "You Can't do that on Stage Anymore" Double Discs from a buddy. Some tasty stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 ZPZ are fucking GREAT! I don't think I can make the Kitchener show However, I will be hitting the free ZPZ show in Buffalo on August 7th They have not disappointed me yet. Killer musicians playing fantastic music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 I first discovered Adrian Belew close to 30 years ago when he released his, I believe, first solo album - The Lone Rhino. Been a huge fan ever since. I saw him about 15 years ago in Toronto at The Spectrum, and got to briefly meet him after the show. Been trying to catch him ever since. Zappa is one of those musicians that I just never got into for some reason. I mean, I like what I've heard, but I never bought any of his stuff. I'm also wondering if Adrian will join ZPZ. Adrian was "discovered" by Zappa and played in his band for a few years. He's also played with David Bowie, Talking Heads, and many more, and was the music director of Bowie's Sound and Vision tour. ZPZ are up against Steely Dan unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Adrian was "discovered" by Zappa and played in his band for a few years. He's also played with David Bowie, Talking Heads, and many more, and was the music director of Bowie's Sound and Vision tour.Don't forget he's also been a charter member of King Crimson since the early '80s.ZPZ are up against Steely Dan unfortunately.Most unfortunate conflict of the festival if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Don't forget he's also been a charter member of King Crimson since the early '80s.D'oh....Totally spaced out there. And I have seen Adrian with King Crimson as well. Besides having many KC albums including most if not all of the ones with Belew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 It looks like I'm heading to the Kitchener show tonight after all ... a nice surprise!!!Peace, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark tonin Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Totally enjoyed the Kitchener show! Thank you Tungsten Gruvsten for the hook up!I highly recommend this show for you Ottawa folks. If you are a Zappa fan, this is a must see. If you are not knowledgeable about Zappa, you will still dig it in a big way. A killer 8 piece band!Is anybody currently writing music like this? Who is a modern Frank Zappa? Wow ...Peace, Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Not Bob Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I've just finished reading a biography of Talking Heads ... Tina Weymouth fucked over Adrian Belew big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnt Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I thought the sound sucked even though the music was really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balogna pogna Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Awesome show but the sound was pretty bad.Hopefully the response they got in Kitchener will bring them back to a better venue next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten Gruvsten Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 pfft on the floor the sound was frickin' great - damn loud too! dweezil was on fire! That was my least fave part of the last time around, now he has definitely picked it up.Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy for a closer...unheard of! They played some surprises that's for sure, the Joe's Garage run was fantastic, Outside Now, Packard Goose were facking amazing...A sold out house last night definitely might seal the deal for more shows of this nature... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I've just finished reading a biography of Talking Heads ... Tina Weymouth fucked over Adrian Belew big time.if you've got a few minutes to elaborate I'd love to hear more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Not Bob Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I've just finished reading a biography of Talking Heads ... Tina Weymouth fucked over Adrian Belew big time.if you've got a few minutes to elaborate I'd love to hear more...Well, pardon if I hash some of the details, but ...Belew had worked on recording and touring with Talking Heads for Remain In Light. Weymouth then goes up to Belew and asks him if he is interested in joining Talking Heads as a fifth member, "but don't tell any of the others I mentioned this to you." Later, Jerry Harrison separately mentioned to Belew that they were interested in having him in the band. Following up on this, Belew raises the topic with Tina, but Tina tells him that they don't want him as a fifth member, they wanted him as a fourth member ... replacing David Byrne (no word on whether she had ever mentioned this to the other members of the band.) Belew starts to get a bad feeling about this. On top of this, Robert Fripp has just asked him to join the new lineup of King Crimson, so he has a few things going on at the same time.Around this time, Tina, Adrian and Chris Frantz go down to the Carribbean to work on what would ultimately become the first Tom Tom Club album. Adrian worked extensively on these recordings, including a track called "L'Elephante", where Adrian wrote and played everything. Adrian informed Tina and Chris that he had a commitment to record with Fripp, then make his own solo record, but he would be back in 3 months and then they could finish the record. Tina said sure, they would wait. She didn't wait, and instead brought in her sisters to do vocals and just completed the record. Adrian came back after 3 months to a tape of the completed record. He then found that some of his solos had been erased, and a lot of the riffs he had come up with had been turned into the primary melodies of the songs. Yet when the record did come out, Adrian was not mentioned anywhere in the songwriting credits (including "L'Elephante, which was exclusively his creation). When he tried to address this, Tina said she considered him more of an arranger than a songwriter. Further enquiries and Tina and Chris just stopped returning his phone calls. The first Tom Tom Club album went on to be a substantial club hit and wound up going gold, but Adrian saw no songwriting royalties from it. Belew decided to let it slide (by a lot of reports I have read, Adrian seems to be one of the nicest guys in music) but you know it had to stick in his craw.Adrian Belew ended up deciding to join King Crimson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 thanks for the details. I'm thinking that King Crimson was the better choice than the Talking Heads, but too bad that he got screwed out of those royalties. He is an incredibly talented dude. Seems to have gotten the acclaim he deserves from other musicians (notwithstanding what Tina did), but never that much commercial success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Which biography did you read? I read one a few years ago, but can't quite recall the title or author (although I have a funny feeling it may have been the same guy who did a Richard Thompson bio about ten years ago). I do remember that it was horribly written, but informative nonetheless. I did get the impression that the author was attempting to portray Tina Weymouth as a baddie (rightly or wrongly, I don't know) and that all of the quotes in the book which were attributed to her seeemed mostly like responses to a draft of the book rather than interviews. Anyway, my point is that although I learned a lot from the book, I still thought the author had an axe to grind and that he could have benefitted from a refresher course in writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Belew was awesome. Zappa Plays Zappa was jaw-droppingly astounding.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 holy christ! that was a great show! My favourite of the day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Nice shot bouche!I was converted after hearing ZPZ the first time. They are such a talented group of musicians and they're having so much fun up there when they are playing. I've been trying to get people to go ever since. Like somebody mentioned before, you don't have to know a lot of Zappa to appreciate the show at all. Great way to "discover" Zappa for any noobs out there.Bummed I missed the Kitchener show, but I won't be missing Buffalo (for free ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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