Ms.Huxtable Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 If it had to be one or the other, would you prefer a society of science but no art, or of art but no science? Would you advise your child to study art or science? Talk amongst yourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 science. without it, i don't think we would have evolved... science is part of evolution. art is the result of evolution. Just my 9:30 am wake and bake answer. CLT: Miles Davis Quintet The Kongresshaus Zurich, Switzerland 60-4-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 quote: Originally posted by Ms.Huxtable: If it had to be one or the other, would you prefer a society of science but no art, or of art but no science? Would you advise your child to study art or science? Talk amongst yourselves. The first question is tough. I'm compelled to choose a society with art and no science but I'm concerned about the prominence of religion in that scenario, something a science-only society could take care of dismissing quite nicely. Still, that metaphysical spookiness feeds great art, and art is fundamental to the human psyche, and it just touches me deeper, so I would go for a world of art with no science. But I wouldn't wish that choice on any culture. As for the second question, I'd encourage my kids to pursue artistic endeavours. Rather, they should pursue whatever interests them, but I certainly wouldn't *discourage* them from pursuing art. The world needs more art. I fear it's a fading concept in modern culture. Of course, it can never die, but it doesn't seem as central to our culture as I think it may have been in times gone by. Music is love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitari Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Geez Ms. H, you're a bit philosophical for so early in the morning! Personally, I don't think one can exist without the other. Human nature demands the evolution of both science and art in our daily lives. If one or the other were removed...humanity would shrivel up like a raisin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Geez craig. I was trying to find a way to say just that. Science and Art are intertwined in many ways. So, I guess if there was no science and there was only art, you would not have music, fractals, paint, photography, cooking techniques (marinating pork tenderloin is pretty scientific ya know)...etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 No discussion on art vs. society is complete without an in-depth look at the functions of our human brain. Each side of the brain has its own unique and special abilities. The right side of the brain is intuitive, while the left side of the brain is logical. Right side processes: Creativity Patterns Spatial Awareness Context It Recognizes: Faces Places Objects Left side processes: Speech Analysis Time Sequence It Recognizes: Letters Numbers Words It has been proven that the size of the halves tends to vary. A person with a larger right side is more inclined towards art, and a person with a larger left side is inclined to be more focused on sciences. Barring any ailments or strokes, the human mind is capable of processing both. Therefore Kitari and Craig are right that art and science have a symbiotic relation with one another and combine to form a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 Art vs Science There were once two people travelling on a train, a scientist and a poet, who were riding in the same compartment. They had never met before, so naturally, there wasn't much conversation between the two. The poet was minding his own business, looking out the window at the beauty of the passing terrain. The scientist was very uptight, trying to think of things he didn't know so he could try to figure them out. Finally, the scientist was so bored, that he said to the poet, "Hey, do you want to play a game?" The poet, being content with what he was doing, ignored him and continued looking out the window, humming quietly to himself. This infuriated the scientist, who irritably asked again, "Hey, you, do you want to play a game? I'll ask you a question, and if you get it wrong, you give me $5. Then, YOU ask ME a question, and if I can't answer it, I'll give YOU $5." The poet thought about this for a moment, but he decided against it, seeing that the scientist was obviously a very bright man. He politely turned down the scientist's offer. The scientist, who, by this time was going mad, tried a final time. "Look, I'll ask you a question, and if you can't answer it, you give me $5. Then you ask ME a question, and if I can't answer it, I'll give you $50!" Now, the poet was not that smart academically, but he wasn't totally stupid. He readily accepted the offer. "Okay," the scientist said, "what is the EXACT distance between the Earth and the Moon?" The poet, obviously not knowing the answer, didn't stop to think about the scientist's question. He took a $5 bill out of his pocket and handed it to the scientist. The scientist happily accepted the bill and promptly said, "Okay, now it's your turn." The poet thought about this for a few minutes, then asked, "Alright, what goes up a mountain on three legs, but comes down on four?" The bright glow quickly vanished from the scientist's face. He thought about this for a long time, taking out his notepad and making numerous calculations. He finally gave up on his notepad and took out his laptop, using his Multimedia Encyclopedia. After about an hour of this, the poet quietly watching the mountains of Colorado go by the whole time, the scientist FINALLY gave up. He reluctantly handed the poet a $50 bill. The poet accepted it graciously, turning back to the window. "Wait!" the scientist shouted. "You can't do this to me! What's the answer??" The poet looked at the scientist and calmly put a $5 bill into his hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teetervillestation Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 thats a fun story with a neat twist but the notion that scientists are uptight and overly concearned with acedemics while poets are clever folks who are more apt to enjoy nature is ridicuous...untrue stereotypes- and not good kinds of stereos either. zellers brand baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I would live in the land of art before science, but I would like to be able to visit the land of science from time to time... and I will advise my children to study what they have the strongest vocation and interest in... art, science, politics, history, foreign cuisine... whatever is natural to them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 This may load slowly If you dont understand the point I am trying to make, dont worry, I am not too sure either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 ascii drawings science art thats some really well done acsii animation... I remember there was a big computer at the CNE when I was a kid that would take your picture and print it out using numbers, letters and symbols instead of pixels... I thought that was the shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Ms.Huxtable: Would you advise your child to study art or science? The entire world, I think, would be a better off if I didn't try to populate it with my offspring. A litter of little Brians and Briannes running around is the stuff nightmares are made of - both my nightmares, and yours! But, if I was unfortunate enough to have a child (not to mention if it was unfortunate enough to have me as a parent), I would encourage the little urchin to study whatever it was most interested in. Education is an end unto itself, not just a means to an end - a fact that many people today often seem not to understand. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 I thought I was the only one that remembered those ascii shirts from the exhibition. When I get some ink, I'll make a t-shirt or 2 with some cool images. Can you imagine them IN COLOUR? (if this doesn't work, it's probably your browser and/or colour settings) My Future Garcia T-shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancingbear Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 " to see a world in a grain of sand, And a heaven in a wild flower Hold infinity in the plam of your hand And eternity in an hour." 'auguries of Innocence" (1803) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermontdave Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 Nice, you brought tears to my eyes. Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 quote: My Future Garcia T-shirt I'll take one of those lookin awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig Posted February 20, 2003 Report Share Posted February 20, 2003 i agree kitari, one doesn't exist without the other and creativity can be applied to both...we search for understanding and a more fruitful survival through both art and science. i think that in some cases what one person might call 'Art', could be construed as 'Science' from a different perspective. for example music is very mathematical and good songs are chock-full of well rounded 'equations' perhaps the same could be said for visual art... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted February 21, 2003 Report Share Posted February 21, 2003 Art or science? There's a difference? Not the way I like to apply them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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