Basher Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I am hearing chatter that an announcement is expected within a week. Marky, have you heard any rumblings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 dont fuck with us, basher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Granted, this was from PT, but, as always, it is from a "very reliable source".Seems this tour would have way less overhead than Zooma, with a much lower break even point, but I know practically nothing about this industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guigsy Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 the middle of this decade is going to go down as the 'cancelled years'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I have to seriously doubt that... From what I've heard sales for the BSC have been pretty good. Plus the lineup is a whole lot better than Zooma's was... I'll be very surprised if it does get cancelled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted May 31, 2005 Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 If anything, the BSC better not skip Bluesfest.Basher, have you bought a ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 I have not bought a ticket yet for the Toronto show, but will as soon as I can get my arse down to Rotate This when it is actually open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 31, 2005 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 As I posted on PT:Honestly, once a promoter books a tour I say let it go on and take a bath on it, learn from it, and go from there.It would be like me introducing a new product, taking pre-orders, then waiting to see if I will make money or not before I actually fulfill orders. This is a shady way to do business IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Why are people giving money to promoters that aren't in it for the music? There's no way to know which until you start seeing the patterns of cancellations, or dropouts.If you can figure out which promoters are doing it for the love of music, then share the word. I know we know quite a few of the good ones, but the really big ones seem pretty shady.Obviously, there are times where the show can't go on like the Shaker Fest. Everyone knows that that organizer wasn't in it for the money and other factors made the cancellation happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Freak Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 We bought our tickets, could it really be that shallow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeker Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 "Big Summer Classic producers say their tour is still on and selling well. "We're kickin' ass," String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba tells Billboard.com. "We're projecting that almost everywhere will sell out. But we're playing 10,000 seaters, not 20,000 seaters. We feel like or cost is fair to the promoters, and the ticket prices are fair to the kids." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 I'm sure the BSC will do fine. I sure as shit hope so. They included Ottawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatpatguy Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 is there any word as to whether the regular bluesfest admission will cover this show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 It's included in your Bluesfest ticket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backbacon Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Honestly, once a promoter books a tour I say let it go on and take a bath on it, learn from it, and go from there. I really don't think it's shady to back out something if it is clear that money is going to be lost. Lessons can still be learned without going through with something you know is going to lose you lots of money and perhaps fuck up your life because of it. Perhaps backing out will allow something even better to be put on in the future, using the lessons learned from the failed attempt and still having the money to put towards it. That said, I know NOTHING at all about this situation, just pointing out the obvious... people don't owe it to anyone to lose a ton of cash. It's business.It is a really special thing though when a promoter is in it for the music, and go through with it even though money is being lost. Like Woodstock or Festival Express... that is why it is an extra special thing. It just shouldn't be EXPECTED that people should choose to lose money if they can help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headygouda Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 DUDE! Stop the freakin' rumours!! Anyway, here's a quote taken from this article, released at billboard.com the day after the Zooma cancellation was made, read the article here:http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000937652---------------------------The quote from Mike Luba:Big Summer Classic producers say their tour is still on and selling well. "We're kickin' ass," String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba tells Billboard.com. "We're projecting that almost everywhere will sell out. But we're playing 10,000 seaters, not 20,000 seaters. We feel like or cost is fair to the promoters, and the ticket prices are fair to the kids."--------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Wise words, 'bacon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeker Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 This just in the moe/Allmans run sounds like its on the rocks. You heard it here first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 That's great to hear Jason. I posted this because I believe Marky had something to do with the Toronto show and may have had some insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberHippie Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 jeez, that would be heart breaking if it got cancelled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 ??? Like i mean here is the deal.. It is not cheap to take shit to the island. in fact in response to a post up top, this tour at least for toronto has juts as much if not more overhead than zooma... Getting a fucking stage built to that caliber quality on a fucking island at the end of the day will cost a pretty penny... We will just have to cross our fingers...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Fuck Basher, are you saying that the Allmans/moe. tour is cancelled too???! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Marky,I am sure it is tough to hit the island, I just figured that bands would be way cheaper. Like I said, I know nothing about the biz.Anywho, looks like this was another baseless rumour. I'll see you all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted June 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 no Jaimoe, I am saying YOU are cancelled. Legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elemeno Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 no Jaimoe, I am saying YOU are cancelled. Legit. :laugh: :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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