Calamity Jane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 ...but will you still be my "friend" in the morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeps Posted July 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 funnily enough Brian is the only person involved in this thread that actually did get work done today.I love everyone. Let's all have sex!Nice, let's all go down to Nathan Phillips Square and have a love in.I'll be the one in the sash!Deeps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Nice, let's all go down to Nathan Phillips Square and have a love in.Good call. We can have a boytitties contest at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 My belly button was out there for the world to see, with my four-month pregnancy sticking out right behind it.Tell me I'm not beautiful. I dare ya. I like the tummy. Then again, I think I may have had something to do with the tummy. I rub it for luck... I'm expecting it to rub back soon. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Good call. We can have a boytitties contest at the same time.hardly fair to the others sweetie...you ALWAYS win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Good call. We can have a boytitties contest at the same time. hardly fair to the others sweetie...you ALWAYS win! I love that ad, for I can't remember what, with a shot of a chest with arms across it and the caption, "Now, I finally have the breasts I've always wanted... unfortunately, they're on my husband." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercenary Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Good call. We can have a boytitties contest at the same time. hardly fair to the others sweetie...you ALWAYS win! I love that ad' date=' for I can't remember what, with a shot of a chest with arms across it and the caption, "Now, I finally have the breasts I've always wanted... unfortunately, they're on my husband." [/quote'] UGGH!!! Bad visual image... bad... must go wash out brain with Javex... uggh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Right from page one:"I think it's alright that we reserve the city hall area for events that don't allow stupid beauty contests to have a voice.I am for this brand o censorship especially considering the regression sexuality is taking in the media these days."I am merely expressing why I am against such censorship. I find the value judgement that beauty pageants are "stupid", without any reasoning given, to be a specious and subjective reason for censorship. It's a good idea to take the time to give some kind of reasoning for your strongly held position before asking the same of others in a written debate.It is my opinion that, too often, censorship arguments are backed up by reasoning that ultimately amounts to personal feelings with little or no regard for the opinions for those being "protected." It can be summed up by saying "I don't like it, so you can't have it." (Prohibition was a stunning example of this.) I find that offensive, as a general rule.I find it interesting that people are taking my opinion so personally. I find the speculation interesting that somehow "men" might have made me this way (whatever "this way" is):Did we (all men), (all people), do this? or are you referring to societal pressures and ideals?When has this come into play for you in your life time?....examples would help.This is about freedom of opinion and expression, the right to live without prejudice, and the right to equal treatment under the law. Nothing more. My life experiences don't come into it, except that my parents always taught me to treat everyone the same. (Everything I ever needed to know about life, I learned in kindergarten?) The speculation that this position might be attributable to the actions of men is ... odd to me. I find this quick speculation of gender bias quite peculiar. As a societal question, I have to ask: Is it really so odd that a woman can take such a stand based on her own reasoning and volition, without having been moulded into it by anything more than sensible parenting?As for the "stupid people" thing, it refers to two things. One is this remark:I think you misunderstand my subject title...I wasn't saying that people in this board need to smarten up or anything of that nature and as a matter of fact I know full fu©king well that the majority of people around here no better than to act like idiots.I misconstrued the meaning because of the typo ("no" versus "know") and I didn't wade back through several pages of the discussion while typing my response. I'm normally pretty good about dealing with typos since I make them myself. Mea culpa.It also refers to the narcisstic tendency that "morally superior folk" have of dismissing dissenting opinion with a sweep of "you can't possibly know what you're talking about." It's bad enough when we hear this as children, but some folks seem compelled to exercise the same high-handedness to adults. My opinion, and it's a general one unless specified.Me, I wouldn't presume to know if that woman is a jackass. I do think that Jessica Simpson comes across as an idiot, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I like the tummy. Then again, I think I may have had something to do with the tummy.I rub it for luck... I'm expecting it to rub back soon. Please.It's nice to feel wanted. We all like to feel wanted. Well, except when it involves pictures at the post office.I feel like the Buddha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Let's all have sex!Been there, done that. Look where it got me.(And I've got the T-shirt--the one with the extra-large tummy.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I have gotten *no* work done today.Me neither. And I've been drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaidy Mae Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I want your job Ollie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Me neither. And I've been drinking.Have one for me. On second thought, if you have one for me, you should drink for two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedShredder Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 i suppose it's a good thing this thread is getting silly...W -- are you drinking? Hehe... Drinking the logic in this thread... I dare some one to map this out... Double dare you's... Hehe... but seriously though... the air's better in Toronto... I don't know what David Miller did, but I congratulate him 100% ~W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calamity Jane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 (edited) the air's better in Toronto... I don't know what David Miller did, but I congratulate him 100% ~W you don't know? Well, it's obvious he logged on here and read our disgust and moral outrage and took some ACTION! Damn straight! We're changing the world with our discussions on here, nobody delude themselves! Edited July 20, 2005 by Guest oh sh!t -- forgot my winky smiley guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Does this mean the 2006 "Boys of the Sanctuary" Calendar is off?I've been working out getting ready for it. Hoping for July (fingers crossed!).In my mind I am dry humping all of you. There, I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedShredder Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 nobody delude themselves! Let me be the first to say that the human species ultimately amounts to little more than a civilization of lobsters living at the bottom of a Sea of Air... Lobsters with Sashes... so atleast it's colourful PS... better be nobody insulting Lobsters in response to this statement... I'm very sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Let me be the first to say that the human species ultimately amounts to little more than a civilization of lobsters living at the bottom of a Sea of Air... I always thought we were this squishy organism that worked hard extracting material off the Earth's crust to use it for a cosmic blip of time before converting it irrevocably to toxic waste. Some get to wear sashes, but only if they're judged squishy in some arbitrarily precise way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Not to be a party crasher but I'm in agreement with what Arcane is saying, back on page one where I asked why a bunch of guys were discussing this issue of women's rights and subsequently labelled Deeps righteous for drawing his own conclusion that women somehow need us as men to protect those rights, and that a participant in a beauty pageant is a jackass and has her head screwed onto her ass. Essentially calling a woman stupid for doing so seems more offensive and archaic than a public appearance from a celebrity, whether or not you think Miss Universe is doing valuable work. Our society values figureheads that aren't worth their weight in manure and make Natalie look like Mother Theresa: I'm thinking Jessica Simpson, Kid Rock, Tom Fucking cruise, even George W. Bush. Because at least Natalie had to win a worldwide contest!Recall also that this same bylaw that you claim protects people from harm was used to ban the barenaked ladies from performing because...shock and awe!...their name was offensive. This is mentioned in the CBC article you cited but not surprisingly it hasn't been brought up here. Getting back to what I was saying before, I have a decidedly optimistic view of gender equality in this country and world, and think we're getting close to a state of equilibrium where a women's voice can be heard and valued equally. Or a women who espouses a dumb opinion can be called dumb for that reason. Even more important than my opinion is that as a man I don't feel qualified to provide a conclusive answer to a longstanding issue that involves more than a beauty pageantLast but not least I'd like to know whether in someone's utopia men become eunuchs and women become frigid? In a perfect world could we only value our respective other's intellect and be crippled in acknowledging a women's sexual attractiveness, or our boyfriend's big dick to our girlfriends (paraphrasing of course)? I'm definitely not in favour of the type of feminism that tries to whitewash human sexuality and urge the same sort of supression that the Catholic Church demands of its clergy...it's unnatural and with tolerance and respect as a core background I think we should feel empowered and open to saying that yes, women are physically beautiful creatures. Why should we feel bad for saying that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Even more important than my opinion is that as a man I don't feel qualified to provide a conclusive answer to a longstanding issue that involves more than a beauty pageantThat's my angle too. Until a man lives not even just a day but a life as a woman, a gay man, dyke, trannie, etc. (and that's just gender), there can be no decisive authority behind what he says. Unfortunately, I just can't shut the hell up, so I always hope the women I know can be patient with me. I keep mulling over a line I recently read Joni Mitchell using, reflecting on her own (attenuated) love life as she enters her latter decades - "Women are protected by law before they're 18, and protected by nature when they're over 60." I was struck by how relieved she said she felt now that she was on the other side of it all, and could get down to the rest of the business of living. I guess men just have to wait unti they get too senile.And yet it would be so dull to live in an ungendered world. Vive la difference, and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 damn pinko's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 (edited) I wonder if the Ms. Universe contestants sit around and talk about how internet nerds such as ourselves should get off of our asses and do something.PS-I like to edit my posts. Edited July 20, 2005 by Guest Go fu©k a duck ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Evil_Mouse Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 !! I'd forgotten that Chuck Norris had jumped on the evangelical bandwagon. I don't know which is worse, him with Christianity, or Steven Seagal with Buddhism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 I wonder if the Ms. Universe contestants sit around and talk about how internet nerds such as ourselves should get off of our asses and do something.Ever watch "Beauty and the Geek"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 i'm wondering where Hamilton went...as i know he is not one to back down....No, you're right - I don't back down. But I was at work all day, and I don't have internet access there.At this point, I have nothing left to contribute to the discussion. MarcO, AD, Polkaroo and a few others have managed to already state anything that I might have said in response to many different posts in this thread, so I'll just let the issue stand.And I don't think I'm a "nice guy", I think I'm an "asshole". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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