Beatle Backs Seals

[Birdy]

i don't hate the 'it's my livlihood comments" for the simple fact that it is their livlihood. irregardless of what you do and it's corresponding moral standard, you still have to survive and provide for your family for their survival. unfortunately for a lot of seal hunters on Canada's east coast job options aren't plenty. i'd venture to say that seal hunting actually keeps people out of professions such as prostitution, gambling, drug smuggling, etc.

when i was in university i jumped on a bus one weekend and headed down to ottawa to protest the seal hunt. a few years later i gained a better understanding of the hunt as a past time and as a profession. now i wish i never got on that bus.

Edited March 1, 2006 by Guest

[Im going home Donny]

I think that how we treat animals and how we treat this planet and how we treat people are all very indicative of one another.

A shift is coming...and yeah probably won't be untill the last moments but I have hope round two

will see very different attitudes across the board.

I bet Paul does contribute to enviremental issues...I'm guessing he has a holistic perpective...just guessing though.

I for one am ever growing very curious about The Gaia hypothesis.

oh and I care about your toe dinghy...I'm sure its very cute and cuddly.

[Im going home Donny]

oh man...the rock indusrty...yuckers mcdouble yucks....

you should take a look at the flower industry....good gawd...you'll never buy flowers for your gal again....can you say chemical hell?

What first world countries get away with in lower world countries....yikes.

[Tooly]

whats the gaia hypothesis? dont mind my ignorance please

and dont get me wrong, id never club or shoot or stab a seal, i think they rock, id never hurt one.

[bradm]

whats the gaia hypothesis? dont mind my ignorance please

http://www.oceansonline.com/gaiaho.htm

Aloha,

Brad

[Im going home Donny]

thanks BradM...sorry tooly...ignorant...I'd be pretty ignorant if I thought that....at the end of the day I usually find myself thinking that I don't know much about much.

Edited March 2, 2006 by Guest

[bradm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory_%28science%29'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_theory_%28science%29

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_philosophy

(which I got via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia ) are also good.

Aloha,

Brad

[ollie]

It just occurred to me that Paul McCartney can shut the fuck up with his compassion routine. How about dialing back the tickets prices so that your not wallet raping the fans that support your lifestyle? If it's "what the market will bear" then so is the fucking seal hunt.

[Birdy]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Tooly]

thanks for the links brad

[StoneMtn]

It just occurred to me that Paul McCartney can shut the fuck up with his compassion routine. How about dialing back the tickets prices so that your not wallet raping the fans that support your lifestyle? If it's "what the market will bear" then so is the fucking seal hunt.

With respect, Ollie, I really don't see what these two issues have to do with each other. Could you clarify?

[MarcO]

It just occurred to me that Paul McCartney can shut the fuck up with his compassion routine. How about dialing back the tickets prices so that your not wallet raping the fans that support your lifestyle? If it's "what the market will bear" then so is the fucking seal hunt.

Actually, it just occured to me that this is a stupid thing to write. Paul McCartney can say and do whatever in the fuck he likes. And anyone with a brain in their head that isn't 14 years old would know that McCartney has been a supporter of animal rights for coming on 30 years now, for no good reason other than he believes in it. This has 0% to do with ticket prices for a McCartney show and you know it so what was the point again? "Compassion routine". Oh my God you are so fucking cool.

[ollie]

Hey MarcO, can I similary say and do whatever the fuck I like or does this only apply to Paul McCartney? Can we be a little more civil?

The analogy I'm trying to draw is business. It's a convenient excuse when musicians get called on exorbitant ticket prices. They says things like "it's the cost of business", or "it's what the market will bear".

I think the seal hunter's are using similar arguments to defend their business: "It's my livelihood", "I need to provide for my family".

That Paul ignores those concerns for the sake of his agenda, instead appealing to emotion with phrases like "heartbreaking hunt", makes his argument weak in my eyes.

Fuckity fuck fuck fucking fuck.

[peipunk]

Actually, it just occured to me that this is a stupid thing to write.

I for one know Ollie isn't a stupid person; so what was wrong with the way StoneMtn responded to him?

[MarcO]

StoneMtn can respond in his way, I'll respond with mine. 100% my perogative, you know?

[Im going home Donny]

I wish the people protesting the seal hunts would at the same time come up with viable ways for these folks to live now...I think the seal hunt is pretty horrible but I'm not starving for a livelyhood either so its hard for me to judge....plus I i didn't grow up in an envirement that finds it all perfectly natural....seems to be a common problem when folks protest things...not coming up with alternatives that is and lacking understanding of the situation.

oh the humanity.

[Im going home Donny]

haha...how rich is paul? Couldn't he create livings for these people? hahaha....my lefty little heart wishes so much that when rich folks cross a certain line of richness theyd be forced to throw certain ammounts of money at the worlds problems.

Imagine something like that?

Imagine.

[bradm]

Now, if he selected, trained, (paid) and used a crew of exclusively (former) seal hunters on his tour as roadies, then he might contribute to solving the problem...

Aloha,

Brad

[Freak By Night]

It's all well and good for somebody from England to speak out against Canada's seal hunt.(I'm not just referring to Sir Paul here - there's a movement afoot in British Parliament for a boycott of Canadian products). England chopped down their forests and destroyed most of their wildlife centuries ago.

Richmond Park, in London, is home to hundreds of deer. Each year, many of these deer are slaughtered, as a form of "wildlife management".

As I said earlier, I'm against the seal hunt, but I'd like the Richmond Park deer slaughter to be given equal time in the press, and by the seal-hunt protesters.

Edited March 3, 2006 by Guest
It's acually Richmond Park, not Regent's Park

[Im going home Donny]

hemp farms, hemp farms, hemp farms.

mary jane farms, mary jane farms, mary jane farms.

[Davey Boy 2.0]

Boycott marmite!!

[Freak By Night]

Mmmmm Marmite.

I actually like that stuff.

[Davey Boy 2.0]

you're part of the problem, FBN

[gentlemonkey]

Paul McCartney has landed on P.E.I...

Wonder if thats the first time a Beatle has touched down on the Islet?

Buote, throw on one your old backstage passes and try and get an exclusive interview..

[meggo]

ah GM. you're so good at adding something light and airy to defuse a pissy thread. kind of like meringue!

- [although i notice it has lost much of its pissiness]

if i could weigh in... if an animal is killed humanely and all the parts are used, that's one thing. i saw a movie in high school where someone was covering the seal hunt under cover - and the way they were being killed was very 'against the rules.' i won't go into detail but suffice it to say it was horrendous.