Schwa. Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 hey Dinghy, you should make a sign that reads: "I'm missin' Scratch Bastid for this" and head down to the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA...On the floor!The city’s biggest transit union says it will end its strike immediately if the city accepts a “middle-ground†position, suggested by a federal mediator, that the municipality previously rejected.The union promises to make a formal proposal to the city government public shortly, but an advance copy of the statement obtained by the Citizen says it is now up to the city and Mayor Larry O'Brien to end the strike.“Our members would be back to work in less than 24 hours if Mayor O’Brien accepted the mediator’s proposal,†André Cornellier, president of the union, says in the statement. “If the mayor is not willing to listen to the federal mediator, then it is his decision that the residents of this city should suffer through a long and difficult dispute."Minutes after the offer was made by the union, Mr. O’Brien rejected it because the mediator's proposed settlement didn’t give the city control over scheduling, which is the city's key demand. Edited December 12, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak By Night Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Glad to see Cornellier has learned to speak in complete sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I like how the union is desperately trying to gain public support by continously blaming the city for the strike. Nobody is buying their rhetoric though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Carleton University students are totally buying the bullshit but you know what they say. If you cant go to university, go to Carleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 BAHAHAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I wish Booche was our leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Are you sure about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Or this guy:Dieter Doneit-HendersonAnd I agree, that driver who nearly hit the picketer should have gotten a medal for what he did! They have no god damn right obstructing City Hall's other operations and that of the Courts of Ontario!Hopefully more drivers act erratically like this and maybe, just maybe, they'll be too afraid to picket, like they are now...Hence why the left the downtown core...I wasn't the only one who shouted as I drove past with my window down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I like how the union is desperately trying to gain public support by continously blaming the city for the strike. Nobody is buying their rhetoric though.It holds weight with me. Our city council is exceptionally incompetent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Low Roller Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I like how the union is desperately trying to gain public support by continously blaming the city for the strike. Nobody is buying their rhetoric though.It holds weight with me. Our city council is exceptionally incompetent.Oh I'll agree with that wholeheartedly. The City of Ottawa is so fucked that I've strongly considered never buying a house here. However the stance they are taking with this strike is possibly the first sound thing they have done in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Why? Because controlling the schedule will save them money? Knowing this council it will end up costing more. I do not trust them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I do not trust them at all.Nor do I. Particularly Mayor NoBrain (that's what my 10 yr old and her friends call him. gotta love it. they came up with that during the election.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 The city initiated the "spare board rules" during our last strike to try and save them money.It backfired, and they want to take it back.The 97 agreement...It's amazing how much we have given up since then.The following news article is from the Ottawa Citizen web site at > http://www.ottawacitizen.com/online/1996/dec17/cit/cit5/cit5.html > gives details about the ending of the OC Transpo strike. > Tuesday, December 17, 1996 > Buses set to roll on Thursday > Deal highlights > Wages: Pay increase of two per cent in 1998 and 1.3 per cent in 1999. > Buyouts, bonuses: $1.8-million surplus in benefits fund gives all > members $300 signing bonus. Balance used for early retirement incentive > to eligible employees. > Work Bus: Free bus service bringing employees to and from work outside > normal hours remains. > Spare Board: Changes to the system of allocating replacement and > reduced-hours work to drivers will save overtime costs. > Coffee break bonus: As begun in September, drivers will get extra 45 > cents an hour in lieu of missed breaks. Union wanted a return to yearly > bonuses of about $1,200. > Callbacks: 49 employees laid off this year will have first priority for > new jobs over the next five years. > Contracting out: OC Transpo can't contract out work if it means the loss > of a union job. > Insurance carrier: Joint union/management committee will choose the > insurance carrier for benefits. Management wanted sole discretion. > Dry cleaning: Drivers lose choice. Cleaning will be done through one firm, > for savings of $150,000. > OC Transpo, most strikers support deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 i really don't understand this control over scheduling thing. is there any evidence to show that it is worth the city fighting for that castro-like approach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Um, you guys get free dry cleaning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 and boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 fuckin right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Apparently, the union head and media person will now only grant interviews to news organizations which, based on reviews of their coverage by the union, have produced reports that are "favourable" to the union; those that haven't produced favourable coverage get press releases, no more. (The word "favourable" was later changed to "fair" by the union head, but it was originally "favourable.")Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Not sure he knows the difference between the words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Not sure he knows the difference between the words.I'm quite sure he knows the perceived difference between the words. The reporter, Laura Lowe of A Channel, made a point of saying that the union was now saying "fair", but in the initial call (which Lowe had made to set up an interview, presumably about something else) had used the word "favourable." She also said it was a situation she hadn't ever encountered before as a journalist.Fromhttp://www.atv.ca/ottawa/news_65084.aspxunion president Andre Cornellier is limiting his media availability, saying they will only speak to media that reports favorably to the union. The union has said it will deliver a formal response to the city's contract proposal sometime this week.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 your union leadership is absolutely fucked dinghy. you're being led into the fray by a moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Latest press release.Back in the late 90's, the Union and Management relations at OC were at an all time low and the operation of transit was in shambles. The City decided to bring in KPMG to do a comprehensive study of all the problems and make recommendations. During the study, the unfortunate event of the shootings at OC occurred and this put further focus on how the workers were being treated. The recommendations to improve the work conditions come from the KPMG report.During contract negotiations at the time, both the Union and Management sought to find solutions to the low morale and work conditions through Interest Based Bargaining with the assistance of both funding and a model from Federal Mediation Services.It was from these discussions that the current contract provisions over scheduling were developed. Some of the key points addressed were the number of days that an operator could take off with his work were increased at all levels of seniority as well as the number of junior ooperators having the ability to have a weekend off were greatly increased. It allowed many operators to go from just two days off in a 14 day cycleto three and others to get up to the standard of four off days in a 14 day cycle.The cost was that more senior operators would work weekend nights and junior operators would work their split shift outside of the twelve hour spread. To accommodate this, it was freely agreed to by both parties that overtime would be paid to the senior operators selecting to work late shifts on weekends and that other operators who worked between seven and eight hours outside of their twelve hour spread would be paid at straight time, a top up of a maximum of one hour and receive and additional day off.These changes were freely agreed to between both the City and the Union with the Union agreeing to take a reduced wage package along with relaxing long standing work rules to implement this different method of selecting work as the members agreed.During contract negotiations, the city required to implement the changes there would be additional costs and the cost must be taken from the compensation package for the contract. The Membership of ATU agreed. Working conditions were more important and the contract was ratified by the membership with the costs being born by the worker.It should also be noted; the OC Transpo Human Resources Manager of the day won the Ottawa Carleton Human Resources Person of the Year Award for this initiative.We, at ATU Local 279, will not change these contract provisions concerning work rules unless through a cooperative and nonthreatening process can find solutions for our members work lives. We recognize there continues to be a need to improve our members' working conditions and the reliability of transit service. We will not return to the working conditions that helped create such a negative environment that led to the KPMG study and other problems of the 90's.Our Members, the City's employees deserve to be treated fairly and with respect by not having their family lives even more limited than they are today.Andre CornellierPresident ATU Local 279 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 There's a store in Centretown with a big sign in the window that reads 'Thank you bus drivers for your selfishness during the holiday season.'Wonder how long that will stay up...Article in the Citizen today about the union leader here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 (edited) There's a store in Centretown with a big sign in the window that reads 'Thank you bus drivers for your selfishness during the holiday season.'Wonder how long that will stay up...Probably a while, the main reason (to my mind) being laid out in this statement here (quoted from the article you posted):...even though their members already have what many employees dream of: good pay, good benefits and job security in a scary economy.Edit: There, just a nice little quote now, all happy. Edited December 16, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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