I've personally only been to the guv once and enjoyed it. This was when my friends all had the VIP booth next to the DJ. I'm pretty cool like that. But I can easily see why Jay could be deterred enough by a venue to co0mpletely ignore a show, I was in the exact same boat. This was even further perpetuated by the other weeks cut-copy show at Circa. Unfortunately even the best acts can be destroyed by a venue with shitty patrons. To the guvs defense though, and despite it's sketchyness, you do not get the elbow throwing assholes that ruined the cut-copy show. Truth be told the biggest thing stopping me from going was the cost, but I've sent jay's buddy an email to inquire what the reduced cover was... perhaps it will be low enough for me to get my post sedar groove on!