Wrong once again? I'll take that as a compliment coming from a Phishhead. And you are a lunatic if you can't recognize Patti's influence. Of course, her husband helped her out a bit too. I'm not a Courtney hater by any stretch. I think the second Hole album is outstanding and Courtney is a fantastic rock front woman (perhaps the best of her generation), but it looks like her relevance is nearing an end, at least commercially.