Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Also, who was good and bad? Here's a few thoughts of some of the performers I saw while viewing the raw concert feed: I don't care for Justin, but it was pathetic to see him getting pelted with bottles. Pathetic because people should have hurled their bottles earlier, when The Tea Party hit the stage. I've seen AC/DC and Rush play better, but they still got it. Randy Bachman is a guitar god. He is not under-rated, but just a little neglected. Randy may have lost 60 or so pounds, but that clearly hasn't influenced the dietary habits of Burton Cummings, or their enormous drummer. Burton played that cow-bell like Stevie Nicks plays the tambourine - with way too aggression, considering the importance of the instrument. However, in general, The Guess Who kicked. The only reason Sass Jordan was on the bill is because she's on Canadian Idol. Her boss must have pulled some strings. Isley Brothers were good. Sam Roberts doesn't jam enough, but he's good live. An agreeable power-pop performer. Kathleen Edwards reminds me a bit of Lucinda Williams. The Flaming Lips' Wayne Coyne's voice was shot. He'll be in better shape come MoeDown, you better hope. I saw their brief set and it wasn't great, but considering the three-song-only criteria of the afternoon perfomers, The Lips didn't suck either. They even got the crowd to sway to some of their songs. Still, a good gig for a college-indie band. Some thoughts on the television coverage: I'm embarrassed by yesterday's VJ SARS-Fest. MuchMore & The CBC's coverage ( to a smaller extent ), turned into one giant concert cock-tease. Legal obligations that got in the way of airing live music as it was happening, barely got a mention by the MuchMore's VJ's throughout the afternoon coverage. I know for a fact that MuchMore's switchboard was flooded with complaints from angry and frustrated viewers. Not only were people angry about the constant teases/promises of live music, but the substituted programming was horrible. MuchMore shouldn't have covered the event to the extent that they did. I think MuchMore lost a lost of credibility from yesterday's frustrating broadcast coverage. Ralph Benmergie should be shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchoulia Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Ralph SHOULD be shot..or at least permanently silenced... Also, Jiam Ghomeshi... a) Did you intentionally choose the most incoherent, toothless, illiterate folks to interview? Fun for everyone! We tuned in to see bands/hear music...not hear you tell everyone your name every 13.5 seconds....nobody cares who you are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Ya Stoned, Jiam's awful, but considering the band he used to play in, you can't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Correction. Randy Bachman has lost 150 pounds, not 60 like I mentioned earlier. The only fat on him is in his guitar tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I was interested in watching some of this thing on TV, only to find that it was so many hours behind, and so little coverage. Timberlake had some funky-groovy sounds...and it sounded good. However, I'll bet that his tunes are exact replicas at every performance. This whole 'live coverage' pissed me off because cbc.ca and mmm were both claiming to be showing live broadcasts. What does that mean any more? My personal opinion of the Guess Who is that they play like shit. Their harmonies sounded excellent however, but the playing smoked rotten sausage. Burton's cowbell and "I wanna play drums too!" attitude was pure comedy. I don't know how anyone can say that Randy Bachman is a guitar-god I may be missing something, but anytime I've seen/heard him play, it's very unremarkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Hey Bouche, I think you're wrong about Randy. You may not like The Guess Who, but Randy is a great lead player, and a good songwriter too. His guitar track-record speaks for itself - and he was taught by Lenny Breau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 "I may be missing something" ...at least one part of that post was accurate bouche...praising Timberlake and bashing the Guess Who in the same post!?!?!?!...you're gettin' the biggest noogie of your life come Friday in the Hammer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchoulia Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Personally, I thought Timberlake stunk up the joint...not so much his songs, but his PATHETIC keyboard playing!! It was like a child who'd just learned chords was playing with a real band..or Bobby doin' a guitar solo circa June 21/03 Hartford... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 The televison coverage was frustrating and it's no surprise to me the complaints rolled in. I actually was off sick yesterday so I had all day to watch the inanity unfold on the TV airwaves, and it wasn't always pretty. Yes, the talking heads from MuchMoreMusic were annoying, as usual, and Jiam Ghomesi is the smuggest man on the CBC right now (a real honour considering his competitors for the title) but what really got me was the way - later on - how they'd play the same clips on both networks over and over agian! So, I saw Rush play "Limelight" like 4 times, the same Flaming Lips footage (holy shit!) and the car wreck that is Burton Cummings making an ass of himself on a predictably dumb version of "American Woman" a million times. At least I got to see the girls who flashed the cameras over and over agian on those clips. AC/DC were good, it seemed. They seem like the perfect band to play for a huge audience. Their music is muscular, simple and big. Great job, near as I could tell. Anyway, so I stayed up, and stayed up, and eventually we got like the last three songs from The Stones. Oh, MuchMoreMusic and CBC, you are spoiling us! Otherwise, it was embarrasing interviews with the up-with-people audience members ("Hey, does Toronto rock or what?!?") and fluff pieces with the bands ("Have you ever played to so many people before?"). Seems like it was a a success, though, in terms of no-one getting killed or anything, so that's good. MuchMoreMusic should just hand the reins to these things over to Ed The Sock and let him go off. He's the only VJ worth paying attention to, and, like I said, he's a friggin' sock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms.Huxtable Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I'm going to have to go with Bouche on this one. I think Randy hit more than a few bum notes. How long has he had to learn American Woman? I would have hoped he'd have it nailed by now. It seemed more important to him to line up and bop up and down with his band mates than concentrate on the guitar solos. I thought yesterdays performance was pretty bad. The entire broadcast ticked me off actually. I didn't watch anything I liked, there was no order to it, and no matter how may channels I flipped through I didn't see any Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 My opinion could be wrong, but I may just expect alot more out of him - being taught by Lenny and all - than using the same standard and repetative guitar licks everyone uses. He sticks to them...so much so that when he plays his guitar with a drumstick that Burton stole of their drummer, he's wacking strings and doing 'ol faithful "stack-a-chicken" on the fret-board. I could be blinded by the fact that this is all I see and hear from him, but that's enough for me to lose interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 "praising Timberlake and bashing the Guess Who in the same post!?!?!?!..." That's like praising Joan and bashing Phil......... wake now discover boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Whoever did the sound mix for TV for Rush should be shot. Rush is one of the best sounding live bands I've ever seen/heard. That was atrocious. As for Wayne Coyne's voice, Jaimoe, that's pretty much how he sounds. I turned the TV off half way through Satisfaction when Keith and Ron were standing around. C'mon lads, the songs not over yet... Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esau Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 When was this show? quote: I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned and it rolled right by. I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned and I missed it. I got stoned... oh me... oh my. ~Shel Silverstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Bouche and Ms Hux, I saw the entire Guess Who set and Randy really impressed. He may have been a little over-whelmed by the masses, but he had some nice and spirited solos. Keep in mind the mix we were getting was not great. The concert mix that the raw feed provided was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MamaPink Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I'm not a fan of Justin's either, but I agree it was pretty pathetic he had bottles thrown at him. I kinda expected something like that to happen though. He was singing and dancing around to pop music in the middle of a rock concert. No doubt the crowd was full of drunken white trash just waiting for an excuse to throw or demolish something... How did he get thrown into that bill anyway? It's like that Sesame Street song: One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong, Can you tell which thing is not like the others By the time I finish my song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 "I think Randy hit more than a few bum notes." Yeah, I dont like musicians that take chances either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyberHippie Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Well as much as I was completely dis-interested in the whole concert, I did try and tune in a few times to see what was going on. I managed to see fancey intro's that they had made up for the show, and then a whole lot of music videos, from the bands that were playing. WTF is up with that? Sounds like there was some actual concert footage, and coverage of the scene. But I just couldn't seem to tune into it, and I certainly wasn't interested in watching crappy videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hux Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 "I thought yesterdays performance was pretty bad." Bouche and Ms.Hux - did you see anything other than "American Woman" ?? doesn't sound like it... ("No Time" was on at one point as well) Ya gotta understand, there's a lot of cliche "play the hit" stage antics and stuff going on when they play that tune, c'mon....Bachman especially is capable of a lot more than what he did in American Woman, it's obviously not a song where he shows off his finesse chops, duh. Oh well, I'll be picking up some of Peter's extra sticks at the next Hux gig, Burton gave me an idea!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon. Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I felt the whole media presentation was somewhat embarassing. In the big picture toronto is just a big small town - without the charm - and that really came across yesterday. Oh well at least Rickfest 2003 went off well and left people with a pretty good feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I was watching some coverage on Much More Music, and I happened to catch one of Justin's songs. Now I'm not a fan of T-lake and his fellow poopie pop preformers, but the tune I saw him do was surprisingly more funkified as opposed to justified, I was digging it, it almost had a motown feel to it. I was surprised to see him playing keys as well, not bad for a pop princess hymin bustin boy bander. *does anyone else think JT's new video look just like Jamiroquai's last video, weird. peaceinjam.jamesd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 quote: Originally posted by CyberHippie: I managed to see fancey intro's that they had made up for the show, and then a whole lot of music videos, from the bands that were playing. WTF is up with that? Sounds like there was some actual concert footage, and coverage of the scene. But I just couldn't seem to tune into it, and I certainly wasn't interested in watching crappy videos. You can blame the Stones on this one. They had total control over music and copyright rights and restrictions. Also, the PR people from the CBC, Citytv, MuchMusic and MuchMoreMusic completely mislead the audience into thinkig they were going to get complete live performances. Because of the aforementioned Stones-imposed restrictions, TV channels were hung-out to dry. That being said, PR people were not too perceptive about audience reaction. Still, the Public Relations for this show was a disgrace. What these people should have said was: " Due to copyright and performance infringements, we will be bringing you taped-delayed perfomances, with live on-site reports ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieseldoug Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 I can't believe any of you people have the nerve to cut down The Guess Who!!!They were fantastic and Randy Bachman is a guitar wizard!! These guys are all 50+.I wonder what we all would look like after being in a band for 30+ years. Give these guys a break! They are there to be listened to. They are not runway models!GEEZ!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 Gay or not Gay? ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted July 31, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 quote:Originally posted by megrocker: Are u really cutting up the performance of musicians that did not even have their entire set broadcasted? As far as the music ACDC kicked ass. So much energy. The guitar player kept giving it with 1 hand! Fantastic! The lead singer did a strip tease then bent over to pull off his pants and...then lowered the Canadian flag!!! Classic crowd pleaser!! The tea party was also good. The Isley bro’s were a nice surprise. They started their set with some great porn funk that really got the crowd movin' and shakin.' I'm glad you liked the concert. I saw nearly the entire 11 hours and generally liked what I saw. I endured the entire Tea Party set and as usual, it was an unmelodic bore, full of flash with no dash. Jeff Martin should be strung-up. I agree with you: AC/DC kicked ass. I'm curious about one of you above statements. When describing AC/DC, you seemed not to know the line-up of the band? They are very famous, second only to the Stones with reference to yesterday's line-up. No disrespect intended. I'm just surprised that someone doesn't know that AC/DC's lead guitarist and aged school-boy is Angus Young; the rhythm guitarist and main songwriter is his brother Malcolm; and the lead singer is Brian Johnson ( replacement for the later-great Bon Scott ). I had a few co-workers and friends in attendance and they all said AC/DC stole the show. Good for them. Can Angus be any shorter? SG guitars are really small, but Angus looked like he was playing a guitar the size of BB's Lucille. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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