StoneMtn Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Especially the good ones that pave the road to Hell...What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Especially the good ones that pave the road to Hell...What does that even mean? If you're referring to the old adage' date=' "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions," to me, it means that it's very easy when starting out to have good intentions, but end up with terrible results. Take, for example, recent security measures that counties such as the USA have implemented. They were put in place with the best of intentions (the security of the country), but could easily (or already have, some would say) result in an absolute Orwellian dictatorship.I also use it when evaluating groups such as PETA: yes, their intentions may be honourable and good, but if their [i']actions are deplorable, then the group is ultimately behaving dishonourably.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 So, you mean their actions pave the road to Hell; not their intentions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 So, you mean their actions pave the road to Hell; not their intentions?I think it's more that the actions are what guide (or lead) them to Hell. It's almost as if good intentions turn the ignition key on the drive to Hell.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 this just in: there is no heaven, no hell. We made this shit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 this just in: there is no heaven, no hell. We made this shit up.Yeah, but with the best of intentions, I'm sure...Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 So we have the super sincere folks and the cynical 'fuck PETA' types all totally ignoring each other's comments.What makes you think my cynicism isn't sincere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 While we were on this topic, I went to the website of a group that I used to act for on a pro bono basis, which is also where I got my dog.I just found a picture of her at the very bottom of one of their pages ! I'm like a gushing, proud father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timouse Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 My question is- how should they test their products then? I'd be willing to bet that most human foodstuffs are tested on (gasp) humans before they're made available to the general public. And I would further bet that this doesn't entail putting these test humans in cages and cramming food in their eyes while some sort of vice-like mechanism keeps their head in place anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 I am pro PITA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 That picture's taken from the Crispy Cream RD Centre isn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 My question is- how should they test their products then? on cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 His reply was odd, in that it seemed to celebrate the idea that an animal-advocacy group spent its money on a study in order to help animals and that study turned out to be worthless, which makes little sense to me unless you are a person who likes to see pro-animal-groups go bankrupt; but in any event I don't think we ignored each other.I DO and WOULD LOVE to see this pro "animal" group go bankrupt. it is one of my dreams to see PETA go bankrupt. Further, i dont believe the study i mentioned was going to help ANY animal in ANY way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cully Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 that's pretty harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondtube Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 its how i feel. sorry if you feel its harsh. peta to me is the Riaa to most of you guys/gals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamH Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I'd like to think that what we're not seeing PETA do is probably the "meat" of their work, the stuff that is good and not simply shocking. I think the shock and awe tactics are just branding exercises to make sure you remember who they are, so that 1/1000th of the people who see it quietly give money to the organization to fund the staff and resources needed to send letters of intent to fast food chains and hog farms.I don't know that any of this is true but as I said I would like to believe it is. It helps me swallow a naked lady reading from cue cards followed by recycled animal cruelty videos. While not defending the animal production sector I think it's fair to say that not many consumers are willing to pay a real price for their pork chop or their bag of dog food. We would have to pay that price to ensure proper safety measures for slaughterhouse employees, hygenic facilities, humane rearing and slaughtering etc...All this hippy crap about going organic is great but the scale needed to change over the entire country, hell the entire city of Ottawa, is monumental and we are generally self-centred and unwilling to pay an extra 50 cents a pound for this "sleep well at night" meat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 sometime back in the mid-90s, i went to see the band Consolidated at the Bullring at UGuelph. they played a vivisection film. (post-show hotdog sales plummeted) THE spoonman opened. ah, those were the days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Actually, we dont yet have a pet food forum... Bouche?I know that Abbey would love it! She's got lots to say about carrots, green peppers, and beef bones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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