StoneMtn Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Girl, 3, shoots dead two-year old brother28/05/2009 - 10:27:58A boy of two has died after being accidentally shot by his three-year-old sister.Police in Bakersfield, California said the girl apparently found a .45 calibre semiautomatic handgun under her parents’ bed and accidentally shot her brother.The wounded boy was taken to hospital where he was later pronounced dead.Police say the children’s mother was in another room in their apartment at the time of the shooting. Their father was at work.The investigation is continuing. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimafleck: the living legend. Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 i'd say this is more a matter of stupid parenting.i mean...i'm sure negligence also leads to 3 year olds drowning in backyard pools as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoMack Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 i'd say this is more a matter of stupid parenting.i mean...i'm sure negligence also leads to 3 year olds drowning in backyard pools as well.The difference being pools are designed for recreational use. A drowning is an accident.Guns kill people. Thats what they're for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurry Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hip Hip Hooray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted May 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Actually, Dima, your point is well taken (as is MoMack's as well, though). I agree that the real issue here is parenting. I guess it's fair to say that this house was not exactly "baby-proofed" for safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 [color:purple]Come on, as long as you take a safety course all will be OK!?!?http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/293333.phpTucson RegionLaw and OrderPhoenix man killed in gun-safety demoArizona Daily StarTucson, Arizona | Published: 05.18.2009A 26-year-old Phoenix man accidentally killed himself early Sunday while explaining gun safety to two Sierra Vista residents.Samuel Benally Jr. was at an apartment on West Tacoma Street when he said guns should be kept unloaded because people could point them at their heads, said Sierra Vista police Sgt. Brett Mitchell.Benally then demonstrated by putting his own 9mm Ruger, which he believed to be unloaded, to his head and firing it, Mitchell said.Benally was flown to University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, Mitchell said.An investigation is ongoing, but police do not believe alcohol or drugs were involved, Mitchell said.Kim Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 what the hell is a loaded gun doing under a bed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurry Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 what the hell is a loaded gun doing under a bed?It's the States - that's what they do. They play hide and seek with loaded guns.Mud's dad married a lady from Ohio - I found a loaded gun under her couch the first time we went down to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 i'd say this is more a matter of stupid parenting.Yeah, but how are Canadians going to feel righteous indignation over that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 i'd say this is more a matter of stupid parenting.Yeah' date=' but how are Canadians going to feel righteous indignation over that?[/quote']Watch it! I may have to threaten you with my pool. It protects me and my family you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deranger Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Re: impending New World Ordernote- maybe it's not such a bad thing that the police and army aren't the only people who can carry guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousepad Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 what the hell is a loaded gun doing under a bed? It's the States - that's what they do. They play hide and seek with loaded guns. Mud's dad married a lady from Ohio - I found a loaded gun under her couch the first time we went down to visit. That's nuts. uhhh...what were you doing under her couch? You loaded too? Last Gratefulfest I had a conversation with some Americans about guns and they refused to believe that I don't know anyone in Canada that owns a gun. I also found that while traveling in the States no one believed that I was traveling alone on a motorcycle without a gun. I got tired of the crazy looks and lectures on getting myself armed that when asked I would reply 'Well, I'd be insane not to have a gun.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurry Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 what were you doing under her couch? Trying to find her stash ;^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I got tired of the crazy looks and lectures on getting myself armed that when asked I would reply 'Well, I'd be insane not to have a gun.'And that's better than being insane WITH a gun?I still don't get how having a gun in your possession truly makes you any safer than without. I know there are cases where people truly have defended themselves, but at what ratio to incidents where it simply incited more violence that otherwise may not have occurred? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousepad Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I got tired of the crazy looks and lectures on getting myself armed that when asked I would reply 'Well' date=' I'd be insane not to have a gun.'[/quote']And that's better than being insane WITH a gun?I still don't get how having a gun in your possession truly makes you any safer than without. I know there are cases where people truly have defended themselves, but at what ratio to incidents where it simply incited more violence that otherwise may not have occurred?In my experience I found that simply the fear of the probability of the other person being armed prevents most people from causing problems. I found it really sad that many of the Americans I met live in fear and would not have been friendly to me if they hadn't noticed my Canadian plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 very sad. i hope the little girl receives the counseling she will inevitably need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I would challenge any American to show me where, in their Constitution, there is any mention of the right to own a handgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaggyBalls Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 "maybe it's not such a bad thing that the police and army aren't the only people who can carry guns."thanks, Deranger"I would challenge any American to show me where, in their Constitution, there is any mention of the right to own a handgun."awesome, Basher.Doesn't mean that handguns should be banned. Storage and transportation issues."The real issue here is parenting. I guess it's fair to say that this house was not exactly "baby-proofed" for safety."I love your threads, Caveman Lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Yeah, but how are Canadians going to feel righteous indignation over that?In my opinion, you've been an all-star lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Let's hear it for the human tendency to have tragic accidents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basher Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Next we need a thread about the American right to have treadmills, at any cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afro poppa Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 i'd say this is more a matter of stupid parenting.Yeah' date=' but how are Canadians going to feel righteous indignation over that?[/quote']spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 It amuses me that I acknowledged Dima's point at the very beginning of this thread, which I specifically said is a good point, yet people skip that part and decide to refer to me as exhibiting "righteous indignation", with others sheepishly supporting that unfounded remark.My only indignation is regarding inattention to detail. Read before you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 It amuses me that I acknowledged Dima's point at the very beginning of this thread, which I specifically said is a good point, yet people skip that part and decide to refer to me as exhibiting "righteous indignation", with others sheepishly supporting that unfounded remark. It was founded on your subject line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMtn Posted May 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Right. Which was obviously supplemented by a clear acknowledgment that the very comment you glommed on to was a good one. I acknowledged that before you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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