Booche Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 The McLean/Bettman interview was pretty good too. NHL franchises are like Tim Horton's or McDonald's franchises. You can't just go bankrupt as an owner and sell it because you don't "own" it. Seriously, I always enjoy those interviews. I hope Bettman finally brought it home for those who saw it. Buying a team and moving it to whichever city you wanted would create anarchy and the league would be completely unstable. There would be no vision whatsoever.Imagine that, running a business......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 It was one of the "tamer" dates in their affair. I did think that Gary explained it reasonably. I feel dirty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 In regard to Bettman's efforts with television Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Not 212 Million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) In regard to Bettman's efforts with television Yes, and EVERY YEAR since 2002 there has been a Canadian franchise in the Cup Final (Calgary, Edmonton, Ottawa). Now, we have two American franchises in and the ratings go up! Hmmmmm. Wonder why Bettman and the owners don't want any more Canadian based teams?This is what I meant to convey a couple of weeks back when I mistaking wrote that Canadian teams are the worst draw on the road in the States. That was wrong, but what it related to was the TV draw. Americans want to watch American teams battle. They lose interest as soon as it's a Canadian team is involved. This happened when the Jays were in the World Series too. It would be the same if the Raptors ever went anywhere in the playoffs too. (Have you seen how they cover the Olympics?! You'd barely know there were other countries involved )American networks know this and that's why they are staying away from signing any lucrative contract with the League. Could you imagine if two Canadian franchises made it to the Final?! Edited June 3, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Kev your argument holds zero weight.Look at the American teams the Canadian teams played in those playoffs.Tampa Bay, Carolina and Anaheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Except, of course, for 2003 and last year. I really don't care that much but seriously what's with your complete lack of fucking facts in the shit you're posting lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Check out the last 13 years. Bottom 3 in US viewership involve Canadian teams. http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/05/22/nhl-stanley-cup-finals-tv-ratings-1995-2008/19333 Last years Pittsburgh Penguins v. Detroit Redwings marquis “Original 6″ match up produced the best NHL Stanley Cup Finals ratings in 6 years, breaking the recent sharp downward trend. That matchup would happen again this season, and a six or seven game series could provide another uptick. Full Data for NHL Stanley Cup Finals Ratings, 1995-2008 Year Net Games HH Rating HH Share Avg. HHs (million) Avg. Viewers (million) Teams 2008 NBC/VS 6 2.6 5 2.929 4.479 Pittsburgh vs. Detroit 2007 NBC/VS 5 1.2 2 1.307 1.764 Ottawa vs. Anaheim 2006 NBC/OLN** 7 1.8 3 1.994 2.834 Carolina vs, Edmonton 2005 NHL Season Cancelled 2004 *ABC/ESPN 7 2.2 4 2.366 3.286 Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Calgary Flames 2003 *ABC/ESPN 7 2.4 4 2.557 3.627 New Jersey Devils vs. Anaheim Ducks 2002 ABC 3 3.6 7 3.815 5.768 Detroit Red Wings vs. Carolina Hurricanes 2001 ABC 5 3.3 6 3.371 5.058 Colorado Avalanche vs. New Jersey Devils 2000 ABC 4 3.7 8 3.734 5.511 New Jersey Devils vs. Dallas Stars 1999 FOX 3 3.4 6 3.379 4.873 Dallas Stars vs. Buffalo Sabres 1998 FOX 1 3.3 6 3.230 4.830 Detroit Red Wings vs. Washington Capitals 1997 FOX 1 4.0 8 3.930 6.370 Detroit Red Wings vs. Philadelphia Flyers 1996 FOX 2 3.6 7 3.430 5.090 Colorado Avalanche vs. Florida Panthers 1995 FOX 2 3.4 8 3.254 5.210 New Jersey Devils vs. Detroit Red Wings *ABC had 5 telecasts & ESPN had 2 telecasts so this is the combined average of both networks. **NBC had 5 telecasts & OLN had 2 telecasts so this is the combined average of both networks. Data for 2006-8 is Live+SD, all previous years is Live viewing. Nielsen TV Ratings Data: ©2009 Nielsen Media Research, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Edited June 3, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Wish Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I read that Booche.I love the Wings..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Bottom 3 in US viewership involve Canadian teams. Yes, we all see the brush you are using to paint this canvas but what do you think would happen if MTL or TOR were in the finals? Actually, do that. Post the ratings for the Kings-Canadiens in 1993. I'm curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 (edited) Booche,Just showing the numbers/trend that i found from Nielson ratings. Seems those numbers are up in a couple of sites, however, I can't find any more earlier than that.The best I could find to your request for US ratings for MTL v LA in 1993 (when they won it i was in a private box with some Detroit fans at the Palace whopping it up as Jerry and the boys were encoring "Liberty" ) was a post with the ratings for LA v TOR:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090414205531AA5zN9GSadly, the highest viewer total for a game in last year's playoffs on NBC was 2.3MM people (which is slightly more than watched on ESPN/ABC prior to the lockout)Game #6 last year had 2.6MM viewers on CBC, and 2.3MM on NBC (Detroit/Pittsburgh)Game #5 in 2007 had 2.6MM viewers on CBC, and 2.1MM on NBC (Ottawa/Anaheim)Game #7 in 2006 had 2.5MM viewers on CBC, and 1.4MM on NBC (Edmonton/Carolina)Game #7 between Toronto and Los Angeles in 1993 generated 1.1MM viewers on ESPN2 and 3.98MM on CBC, the most people to ever watch a hockey game in Canada. Edited June 3, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Mellon Arena has the greatest in-house soundtrack of any team in any sport hands down. All metal, all the time.Hoping for a game 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 (edited) Great fucking game by the Pens. Way to turn it around in the 2nd.Malkin is on fire.Fantastic effort at home to tie up the series and gain a TON of confidence. Saturday should be a blast. Edited June 5, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 jesus, this is a real series now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 5, 2009 Report Share Posted June 5, 2009 Home ice advantage with last change for matchups was a real plus for Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted June 7, 2009 Report Share Posted June 7, 2009 Datsyuk's BACK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Is it over tonight? Or is this 'homer' series going back to Detroit for Game 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-towns Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Games on tomorrow brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 ha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Time for the Pens to show if they can bounce back again. For some reason, I've got the feeling this is going to be decided in the first 10mins of the game. Imagine, winning back to back Cups in the SAME visotor's arena. If it happens, the Pens sure will be glad to get rid of the Igloo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Wow. ANOTHER killer 2009 playoff game! Fuck. It sucks Game 7 isn't until FRIDAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Johnson Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Sucks that it's ON friday!! Seriously, it's June 12th! The Cup should have been won by now. You'd figure that you'd be safe from missing any Stanley Cup game 7's if you planned to go camping on June fucking 12th, would you not?!?! :mad: :mad: :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badams Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I love hockey but the season drags on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I love hockey but the season drags on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. I agree, the 82 game NHL season is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long, filled with bland, meaningless, and inconsequetial games. The playoffs on the other hand, love it, wish they stretched until NFL pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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