Guns n' Roses/Motley Crue

[Jaimoe]

This is what I don't get. You go to a show at a bar and it starts at around 11:00 and no one complains. You get your drink on and then rock out until 2:00am. Everyone is happy.

GNR starts at 11:00 and everyone complains, why? Its not like it should be a surprise to anyone. No offense Ollie, but if you went to the show for 8 and stood there for 3 hours complaining, I'd have to say you kind of asked for it. If anyone read the news or followed it even slightly they'd know not to bother showing up until 10:00. It's not rocket appliances people!!!

I believe there's a drink curfew at the ACC, plus, if the ticket tells you when the show starts, normally you plan your evening around this. Also, this concert was on a "school night", so rolling home after 2am kinda sucks. Then again, Axl has a history of being erratic, so folks at the concert shouldn't be too shocked by the delayed start time.

[Hal Johnson]

Personally, if I go to a GNR concert on a "school night", there's no way I'm going to school the next day anyway.

[StoneMtn]

This is what I don't get. You go to a show at a bar and it starts at around 11:00 and no one complains. You get your drink on and then rock out until 2:00am. Everyone is happy.

GNR starts at 11:00 and everyone complains' date=' why? Its not like it should be a surprise to anyone. No offense Ollie, but if you went to the show for 8 and stood there for 3 hours complaining, I'd have to say you kind of asked for it. If anyone read the news or followed it even slightly they'd know not to bother showing up until 10:00. It's not rocket appliances people!!![/quote']

I believe there's a drink curfew at the ACC, plus, if the ticket tells you when the show starts, normally you plan your evening around this. Also, this concert was on a "school night", so rolling home after 2am kinda sucks. Then again, Axl has a history of being erratic, so folks at the concert shouldn't be too shocked by the delayed start time.

How do you know everyone is happy to watch a band until 2am on a weeknight? I am not, and I skip those shows, as I have done for most of my adult-life. There are bigger priorities than seeing live music.

On the other hand, I know that if a show is at a huge venue it starts and ends earlier. Given that knowledge, I may choose to go out on a weeknight. If that deal is broken by the artist or venue, I have a right to be annoyed.

While I applaud your willingness to skip school, some of us have careers and clients. Our lives do not lend themselves to flagrant irresponsibility, for the sake of seeing some people play music.

I really didn't think this was that complex of an idea, but apparently it is. (Jaimoe seems to get it.)

[Jaimoe]

If Axl and company played their gig at a club, then the lateness would be acceptable and even seen as normal. However, the ACC shows traditionally start on or near schedule.

[ollie]

GNR starts at 11:00 and everyone complains, why? Its not like it should be a surprise to anyone. No offense Ollie, but if you went to the show for 8 and stood there for 3 hours complaining, I'd have to say you kind of asked for it. If anyone read the news or followed it even slightly they'd know not to bother showing up until 10:00. It's not rocket appliances people!!!

My complaint isn't directly related to the time, just that concession stands close down around 10:30 PM so there's nothing you can do about that fading buzz. I don't even think you can get a non-alcoholic beverage once they close down.

[Northern Wish]

The pop machines in the concourse never close. Snoots!

[Jaimoe]

I heard opener Sebastian Bach stole the show.

[AD]

I had hoped never to read that sentence, in any context.

[jaybone]

My buddy from Oakville went last night.

He took the Go-train in. He expected to take the Go-train home. Instead he took an $80 cab as the Go-trains stop running shortly after 11pm.

He still managed to have fun, but the added expense pissed him off.

[DevO]

The Hamilton show started at about 10:30. At least they put on a non-stop 3 hour show when they finally DO come on!

Review of ACC show from today's Globe:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/arts/the-bloom-is-off-this-rose/article1449833/

[Hal Johnson]

This is what I don't get. You go to a show at a bar and it starts at around 11:00 and no one complains. You get your drink on and then rock out until 2:00am. Everyone is happy.

GNR starts at 11:00 and everyone complains' date=' why? Its not like it should be a surprise to anyone. No offense Ollie, but if you went to the show for 8 and stood there for 3 hours complaining, I'd have to say you kind of asked for it. If anyone read the news or followed it even slightly they'd know not to bother showing up until 10:00. It's not rocket appliances people!!![/quote']

I believe there's a drink curfew at the ACC, plus, if the ticket tells you when the show starts, normally you plan your evening around this. Also, this concert was on a "school night", so rolling home after 2am kinda sucks. Then again, Axl has a history of being erratic, so folks at the concert shouldn't be too shocked by the delayed start time.

How do you know everyone is happy to watch a band until 2am on a weeknight? I am not, and I skip those shows, as I have done for most of my adult-life. There are bigger priorities than seeing live music.

On the other hand, I know that if a show is at a huge venue it starts and ends earlier. Given that knowledge, I may choose to go out on a weeknight. If that deal is broken by the artist or venue, I have a right to be annoyed.

While I applaud your willingness to skip school, some of us have careers and clients. Our lives do not lend themselves to flagrant irresponsibility, for the sake of seeing some people play music.

I really didn't think this was that complex of an idea, but apparently it is. (Jaimoe seems to get it.)

With that post you managed to take every remaining ounce of rock n roll out of being a guns n roses fan

But really, your right, only slackers, low-lifes, and people who are not adults would ever go to a rock concert that ends past 11:00 on a weeknight. I don't even want to know the word for the person who would, (gasp), ever use a vacation day for the friday after a GNR concert.

Ollie and Jaimoe - I get you on the consessions closing - that would suck.

Edited January 30, 2010 by Guest

[Patchoulia]

I couldn't take Friday off, too much shit to do at work. And I'm both a slacker & a low-life. Huh. The dichotomy is hard to grasp.

[bradm]

The dichotomy is hard to grasp.

That's what she said.

Aloha,

Brad

[localcrew]

How's this to add a twist to the concert vs workaday world; my work is these concerts. I start setting up GnR at 9 am sunday-finish tearing them down at 4-5 am Monday and have to be at work at the National Arts Centre at 8am........ouch!

From a fan of music perspective I wonder what the point of putting on this long show is when everyone talks about showing up late to miss the 3 hours of opening acts....

[Kanada Kev]

How's this to add a twist to the concert vs workaday world; my work is these concerts. I start setting up GnR at 9 am sunday-finish tearing them down at 4-5 am Monday and have to be at work at the National Arts Centre at 8am........ouch!

That's dangerous (if you're dealing with any of the physical labour)! What about 'turnaround' time?

[Jaimoe]

How's this to add a twist to the concert vs workaday world; my work is these concerts. I start setting up GnR at 9 am sunday-finish tearing them down at 4-5 am Monday and have to be at work at the National Arts Centre at 8am........ouch!

That's dangerous (if you're dealing with any of the physical labour)! What about 'turnaround' time?

It sounds similar to the impossibly long shifts that people put in when working on film and TV shoots. I've worked on some big music shoots and it is hard work and long hours, but the work has to be done.

[AD]

11:14 Axl goes on stage in Ottawa tonight. His January show almost became a February show.

[dave-O]

So I went to see Axl and Friends last night. Left the house at 10:00, got in the massive bar line, drank 2 beers, took a piss and still managed to get down to the floor as they hit the stage at 11. Pretty serious stage/lights/pyro for the barn that is the Moncton Coliseum! I hadn't paid much attention to the reviews (other than noting the start time), so I was a bit surprised that it was all Appetite and Chinese Democracy material - only Nov Rain, You Could Be Mine and the 2 cover songs from the Illusions. Crowd ate up the old hits and surprisingly also went apeshit for a couple of the better new songs (I want to say "Better" and "Sorry", don't know the titles). Rocket Queen was epic. Predictably, Bubbles showed up to play Liquor and Whores.

The 3 guitarists masturbating over each other was way over the top, and their solo spots were way WAY too long. I wondered if a couple of them were chosen as much for looking cool with a Les Paul and their ability to run back and forth across the stage for 3 hours as for their playing? Bumblefoot guy can play sweep arpeggios 'til the cows come home though.

Cliche and over-the-top rock n roll shenanigans aside, Axl's voice still sounds fucking awesome.

[Velvet]

Looks like a white Mike Tyson.

And just as classy!

[Jaimoe]

Axl looks like an Allman Brothers roadie.

[Hux]

The 3 guitarists masturbating over each other was way over the top, and their solo spots were way WAY too long.

Hold on, I thought you were at a GnR concert, not PLQ?

Edited February 5, 2010 by Guest

[jaybone]

My wife is currently throwing her panties at Tommy Lee while I am at home on the interwebz.

sweet life.

[dave-O]

The 3 guitarists masturbating over each other was way over the top, and their solo spots were way WAY too long.

Hold on, I thought you were at a GnR concert, not PLQ?

I'd be lying if I said that thought didn't cross my mind.

[Velvet]

Couple caught in act at concert go scot free

Last Updated: Thursday, February 4, 2010 | 9:38 PM CT Comments68Recommend70

CBC News

An unidentified woman is escorted out of Winnipeg's MTS Centre after she and a man were caught having sex in the stands during a recent Motley Crue concert. (YouTube)

Two amorous Motley Crue fans will not face a police investigation after they were filmed having sex in a crowded section of Winnipeg's MTS Centre during the band's concert last Friday.

The two concertgoers — an unidentified man and woman — were seated in the upper deck of the downtown arena, surrounded by rowdy fans who witnessed them engaged in lewd and graphic sexual acts for several minutes.

A cell phone video of the incident — filmed from just a few feet away by an onlooker — was posted on YouTube and has been the subject of intense debate in Winnipeg since its existence became widely reported on Wednesday.

The couple was escorted out of the arena by security staff who were called to handle the situation, said MTS Centre spokesman Scott Brown.

Brown described the couple's conduct as possibly the most blatant act of inappropriate behaviour ever seen at an event hosted by the arena.

"It's an unfortunate incident," Brown said. "I think the people engaged in the activity … probably regret their actions."

Police not called

Brown, however, stands behind a decision by security staff to not call in police.

The couple left peacefully and police were not called, said MTS Centre spokesman Scott Brown.

"These individuals co-operated. So we were able to escort them out quietly. If there had been a little bit more of an escalation of an incident, then in that case, there may have been some police involvement," he said.

"Was there an issue with the larger public in the area? And according to what the reports said, from what our security staff said, and backed up by the video, there wasn't."

Brown added that if police choose to open an investigation, or if anyone at the concert wants to formally complain, the MTS Centre will co-operate.

So far, no complaints have been made, Brown said.

Not calling police was simply MTS Centre security and patrons exercising some discretion, said University of Manitoba law professor David Deutscher.

"And in the context of a rock concert, I expect the individuals who viewed the matter chose not to treat it as a crime but treat it as an indiscretion — even though it might be technically a crime," he said.

A Winnipeg police spokesperson confirmed on Thursday that no investigation is underway, and that no one has stepped forward to formally complain about what happened at the concert.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2010/02/04/man-motley-crue-concert-sex.html

[Kanada Kev]

http://www.blackbookmag.com/article/the-greatest-show-on-earth/16163

The phone calls began around noon on Sunday. Desperate rockers caught wind of a performance by Guns N' Roses (and Axl Rose) in the intimate confines of Rose Bar. I politely instructed them to cultivate a relationship with Nur Khan, Rose Bar's knight in shining armor, so that in the future they're invited to parties. I wouldn't get involved. I wouldn't make inquiries. Nur, I'm sure, was inundated with requests from his own family of thousands. I had no intention of attending as Sundays are reserved for visits with my parental units. Nur texted me around 7:30 to invite me and well, the prospect of seeing a stadium act in a living room setting was undeniable. He also invited me to the Purple Magazine party on the roof. I took a deep breath and thought, maybe the whole scene should. With all the talk of the 98 Kenmare space with my gangster hero Paul Sevigny, maybe this was a flashpoint. Maybe this is the start of a big decade for clubdom.

The scene is seething, waiting for answers to the questions. Is this really fun? Is this really cool? Is this all there is? Will it ever be great again? I’m not talking three bottles, some models and a B-list actor cool. I’m talking a cool that is so cool that it turns that crowd off. I’m not talking follow the leader cool but trendsetter cool, new music cool. Isn’t it time to send those mix format DJs back to weddings and their menial labor jobs? Isn’t it time that DJs aren’t just Serrato geeks playing the same track as the guy next door? That shit’s got to be over soon.

Now, it’s very arguable that an aging Axl with a band called Guns N’ Roses (which has been slashed down to basically a parody) isn’t really that cool. However, the performance in a small joint with a super exclusive invited crowd is a déjà vu event. It felt very warm, fuzzy and familiar and brought up the possibilities and the rewards of doing it right, of not selling out to greed. Nur likes loot as much as the next fellow but he hasn’t, in my experience, lost sight of the ball. He hasn’t caved in as most of the other joints have and considered a five bottle buying bean counter a VIP. He denies them and builds his relationships with artists and talent. It’s the theory that clubs can be built around smart, sharp, hip crowds and not meccas for bottle bullies and their mail order brides and escorts. Nur was gushing all about sound check, and, as all great club deities are the superest of salesmen, his pleas hit home and I said ‘yes’.

Nur is taking it to the next level. Another fashion week for him at Rose Bar, and he still puts acts into a room not big enough to house their equipment, let alone the pretty people. “Eight seasons into fashion week and I’m still doing this shit!,†he offered in unbridled glee. He gushed about past shows, “The Cult, Jane’s Addiction, The Black Keys, The Kooks, Velvet Revolver, Arckid, and I forget who else right now.†I left him to his cell phone and the pleas of thousands and finished dinner with the flock.

The most impressive thing about the event is how professionally it was handled at the door. It wasn’t the madhouse associated with every major fashion week event. Calmness and professionalism separated the invited from the rest and it was done with polite but sure words. It was a room filled with hot, smart women and familiar faces. Guys who looked like rock stars wearing “Who’s Cooler Than Me†hats. Mickey Rourke and crew with Vegas and his posse. Russell Simmons meticulously saying hello to everyone. Ever dapper, always dashing Andre Balazs with crew attached parted the crowds as easily as Moses would part the waters of a guppy tank. I smiled, said hello and got the warm acknowledgment of nightlife’s reigning king. As he moved on, I heard gasps about the tall beautiful woman he was with. I didn’t notice her. Alas, I’ve reached that point. I glad handed Binn and Genz and gushed over Guest of a Guest’s Rachelle Hruska. There were so many bold-face names, I wanted to alert the media. I decided that I was the media and I won’t leak names. As the show neared, the placid hipsters started to resemble those mall shoppers on the day after Thanksgiving. Nearness to the stage was the goal. Security edited a few of the guestlist/door decisions without dampening the excitement. The band hit the stage hard. Axl looked good, if not a little too much like Mickey Rourke. I glanced at Mickey’s table to assure myself. He really should play Axl in the movie. We were all arms length from each other and pogo-ing like it was 1989. Band and audience became one. The crowd was spectacular and, in that frenzied state, as sexy as I’ve ever seen a club crowd.

It can happen. It will happen. There’s nothing much wrong with nightlife, except for the wrong people being in control of the right spaces. Nur will do bigger things, as he said to me, “As a complement to this not instead of thisâ€. How can people lament about how lame nightlife has become when Rose Bar is always there, when Brooklyn Bowl and Skebar still open their doors nightly? With Nur and Paul’s place moments away and Jane rumors abound, we can come back to the future. You can still get fixed up well at 1Oak on most nights, and The Box is turning three this week. I still go and it’s still fun. There’s a lot going on. Avenue is what it is for those who believe in what it is, and it’s undeniably being exactly that. La Esquina still serves me right. I’m having tea later at The Breslin and Provocateur is delivering as promised. The house bastions, Pacha (David Guetta’s there next weekend) Cielo still provide. The dive bars are more fun than ever. Lit Lounge is still my favorite haunt. I think were going to be alright.