AD Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 save the world for the shitty hip hop that's plaguing our you!now that's some wordsmithing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatpatguy Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 ha ha!!!oh man.. now is that proof I've been sitting in front of this computer too long or what?(that or proof I don't proof read to save my life) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak By Night Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 One band that I would totally like to see re-unite (for more than one gig anyway) is Max Webster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarinGarage Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 nero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im going home Donny Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 neroditto and ditto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouche Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 The Jackson 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisley Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 group that should be locked in a room until they come out with a new epic and then tour it is Black Sabbath.back to the bluesy/jazzy roots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmelbatoast Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Kula Shaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Kula ShakerKula Shaker are an English multi-platinum selling psychedelic rock band who came to prominence during the Britpop era. They split in September 1999 but officially reformed in 2004 for sessions which led to plans for a full live and album-release comeback. Their reformation was not widely publicised until the beginning of 2006. Their third album 'Strangefolk' was released in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I wish Dave Matthews Band would break up so people would want them to get back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 group that should be locked in a room until they come out with a new epic and then tour it is Black Sabbath.back to the bluesy/jazzy rootsWhat he said. Double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\/\/illy Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I wish Dave Matthews Band would break up so people would want them to get back together.I wouldn't. I wish Dave Matthews Band would dump Dave Matthews. Great band; too bad about that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmelbatoast Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Kula ShakerKula Shaker are an English multi-platinum selling psychedelic rock band who came to prominence during the Britpop era. They split in September 1999 but officially reformed in 2004 for sessions which led to plans for a full live and album-release comeback. Their reformation was not widely publicised until the beginning of 2006. Their third album 'Strangefolk' was released in 2007.No shit. I've got to check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 i didn't know til i looked it up either. i thought i had heard something about them getting back together, but had to double check. they need new publicists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave-O Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Low Roller and I saw Kula Shaker last August in a bar in Brighton, a warm up show for their V fest appearances. The old songs still rocked, the new ones sounded terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Big Sugar needs to get back together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Wish Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'd certainly love to see hHead play again...........Indie rock at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 Big Sugar needs to get back togetherI thought Big Sugar got increasingly less interesting with each new album. I love their early raw heavy blues, but they grew too poppy for my tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 word up seannoah is playing at the v-fest in toronto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 This will probably happen, but I'd love another album from Neil Young & Crazy Horse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted August 22, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 I beg you please Eric B and Rakim.. get back together and save the world for the shitty hip hop that's plaguing our youth!Decent article from Time on that very subject:http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1653639,00.htmlFriday, Aug. 17, 2007Hip-hop's Down BeatBy Ta-Nehisi CoatesWhen the political activist Al Sharpton pivoted from his war against bigmouth radio man Don Imus to a war on bad-mouth gangsta rap, the instinct among older music fans was to roll their eyes and yawn. Ten years ago, another activist, C. Delores Tucker, launched a very similar campaign to clean up rap music. She focused on Time Warner (parent of TIME), whose subsidiary Interscope was home to hard-core rappers Snoop Dogg and Tupac Shakur. In 1995 Tucker succeeded in forcing Time Warner to dump Interscope.Her victory was Pyrrhic. Interscope flourished, launching artists like 50 Cent and Eminem and distributing the posthumous recordings of Shakur. And the genre exploded across the planet, with rappers emerging everywhere from Capetown to the banlieues of Paris. In the U.S. alone, sales reached $1.8 billion.The lesson was Capitalism 101: rap music's market strength gave its artists permission to say what they pleased. And the rappers themselves exhibited an entrepreneurial bent unlike that of musicians before them. They understood the need to market and the benefits of line extensions. Theirs was capitalism with a beat.Today that same market is telling rappers to please shut up. While music-industry sales have plummeted, no genre has fallen harder than rap. According to the music trade publication Billboard, rap sales have dropped 44% since 2000 and declined from 13% of all music sales to 10%. Artists who were once the tent poles at rap labels are posting disappointing numbers. Jay-Z's return album, Kingdom Come, for instance, sold a gaudy 680,000 units in its first week, according to Billboard. But by the second week, its sales had declined some 80%. This year rap sales are down 33% so far.Longtime rap fans are doing the math and coming to the same conclusions as the music's voluminous critics. In February, the filmmaker Byron Hurt released Beyond Beats and Rhymes, a documentary notable not just for its hard critique but for the fact that most of the people doing the criticizing were not dowdy church ladies but members of the hip-hop generation who deplore rap's recent fixation on the sensational.Both rappers and music execs are clamoring for solutions. Russell Simmons recently made a tepid call for rappers to self-censor the words nigger and bitch from their albums. But most insiders believe that a debate about profanity and misogyny obscures a much deeper problem: an artistic vacuum at major labels. "The music community has to get more creative," says Steve Rifkin, CEO of SRC Records. "We have to start betting on the new and the up-and-coming for us to grow as an industry. Right now, I don't think anyone is taking chances. It's a big-business culture."It's the ultimate irony. Since the 1980s, when Run-DMC attracted sponsorship from Adidas, the rap community has aspired to be big business. By the '90s, those aspirations had become a reality. In a 1999 cover story, TIME reported that with 81 million CDs sold, rap was officially America's top-selling music genre. The boom produced enterprises like Roc-A-Fella, which straddled fashion, music and film and in 2001 was worth $300 million. It produced moguls like No Limit's Master P and Bad Boy's Puff Daddy, each of whom in 2001 made an appearance on FORTUNE's list of the richest 40 under 40. Along the way, the music influenced everything from advertising to fashion to sports.The growth spurt was fueled by sensationalism. Tupac Shakur shot at police, was convicted of sexual abuse and ultimately was murdered in Las Vegas. But Shakur both alive and dead has also sold more than 20 million records. Death Row Records, which released much of Shakur's material, was run by ex-con Suge Knight and dogged by rumors of money laundering. But between 1992 and 1998, the label churned out 11 multiplatinum albums. Gangsta rappers reveled in their outlaw mystique, crafting ultra-violent tales of drive-bys and stick-ups designed to shock and enthrall their primary audience--white suburban teenagers. "Hip-hop seemed dangerous; it seemed angry," says Richard Nickels, who manages the hip-hop band the Roots. "Kurt Cobain killed himself, and rock seemed weak. But then you had these black guys who came out and had guns. It was exciting to white kids."Hip-hop now faces a generation that takes gangsta rap as just another mundane marker in the cultural scenery. "It's collapsing because they can no longer fool the white kids," says Nickels. "There's only so much redundancy anyone can take."Artists who never jumped on the gangsta bandwagon point the finger at the boardroom. They accuse major labels of strip-mining the music, playing up its sensationalist aspects for easy sales. "In rock you have metal, alternative, emo, soft rock, pop-rock, you have all these different strains," says Q-Tip, front man for the defunct A Tribe Called Quest. "And there are different strains of hip-hop, but record companies aren't set up to sell these different strains. They aren't set up to do anything more of a mature sort of hip-hop."Of course, gangsta rap isn't a record-company invention. Indeed, hip-hop's two most celebrated icons, Shakur and Notorious B.I.G., embraced the sort of lyrical content that today has opened hip-hop to criticism. And the music companies, under assault from file-sharing and other alternative distribution channels, are hardly in a position to do R&D. "When I first signed to Tommy Boy, [the A&R person] would take us to different shows and to art museums," says Q-Tip. "There was real mentorship. Today that's largely absent, and we see the results in the music and in the aesthetic." That result is a stale product, defined by cable channels like BET, now owned by Viacom, which seems to consist primarily of gun worship and underdressed women.During the past decade, record labels have outsourced the business of kingmaking to other artists. Established stars Dr. Dre and Eminem brought 50 Cent to Interscope. Jay-Z founded his own label, cut a distribution deal and began developing his own roster. But most established artists do little development. That leaves the possibility that hip-hop is following the same path that soul and R&B traveled when they descended into disco, which died quickly.No longer able to peddle sensation, rap's moguls are switching tactics. Simmons, while still something of a hip-hop ambassador, is hawking a new self-help book. Master P, whose estimated worth was once $661 million, watched his label, No Limit, sink into bankruptcy. He recently announced the formation of Take a Stand Records, a label catering to "clean" hip-hop music. "Personally, I have profited millions of dollars through explicit rap lyrics," Master P stated on his website. "I can honestly say that I was once part of the problem, and now it's time to be part of the solution."Chris Lighty, CEO of Violator Entertainment, whose clients include 50 Cent and Busta Rhymes, is looking at ways that record companies can work with artists in one area where rappers have been innovative: endorsement and branding. Whether it's 50 Cent owning a stake in Vitamin Water or Jay-Z doing a commercial for HP, most of these deals have been brokered by the artists' own camp. But Lighty sees in hip-hop a chance for record labels to generate more sponsorship and endorsements. "Record companies are going to have to make even better records and participate in brand extension. It's the only way they can survive," says Lighty. "We need to change the format, and this is the only way. 50 Cent is a brand. Jay-Z is a brand."But the current hubbub over indecency poses a direct challenge to that brand strength, as the artist Akon recently discovered. While performing in Trinidad, Akon was videotaped dancing suggestively with a fan who was later revealed to be only 14. The video attracted the ire of conservatives like Bill O'Reilly. In the wake of the controversy, Akon's tour sponsor, Verizon, removed all ringtones featuring his work and retracted its sponsorship. The message was clear: Hip-hop needs a new and improved product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boiler Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 neroJane's Addiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted August 22, 2007 Report Share Posted August 22, 2007 neroJane's AddictionJane's were around recently for an album and tour, but few seemed to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 can i add Big fuckin Sugar?!?its a shame many people didnt give them the props they deserve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXQ42 Posted August 23, 2007 Report Share Posted August 23, 2007 its a shame many people didnt give them the props they deserveLoudest band out there...make yer fuckin' ears bleed! WHOOO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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