Thorgnor Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 So Rolen for Incarnacion?bad deal imoRolen was rollin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 So Rolen for Incarnacion?bad deal imoRolen was rollin'The deal was for the two young pitchers. Incarnacion was more of a throw-in bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I will certainly miss watching Scott Rolen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 On May 7th this year, Schwa and I made the 100 win bet. Since then the Jays have gone 31-44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 On May 7th this year, Schwa and I made the 100 win bet. Since then the Jays have gone 31-44.I tried to warn Schwa about the jinx....the results are plain for all to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 JINX!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 i blame schwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 meh. if i really had that power i'd like to jinx myself a cheeseburger right about now....I'll keep ya posted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 meh. if i really had that power i'd like to jinx myself a cheeseburger right about now....I'll keep ya posted...it is better to be occasionally jinxed than perpetually hungry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 don't break my burger jinx!!! next i'm looking for a High Jinx....BA-DUMP-BUMP!! bradm eat your heart out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted August 4, 2009 Report Share Posted August 4, 2009 Has no one been asking any questions or has he fallen off the face of the earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Jays let Rios go and get NOTHING in return. some salary room. FOR WHAT? like free agents really want to come to Toronto now. a clearly disfunctional organization. the fastest way to improve this team is to get rid of ricciardi. his 5 year plan has worked out wonderfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 and I aint no fan of Rios. or Wells. both were given contracts that they did not deserve. but c'mon, the team needs to pretend to be somewhat competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I don't care that Rios was let go, but you'd think they could have traded him before the deadline to, say, Chicago. J.P. has to go, but the Jays did save $62 million. They are bringing up Travis Snider and we all know that the main reason why the Jays have struggled this year is because of lack of offensive production from Rios, Wells and Overbay (and no batting contributions from the left-field position). The bullpen hasn't been good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) all around suckage.bon voyage, Rios. you won't be missed.So that's Rolen, Rios, BJ Ryan....and they're not rebuilding. pffft. so long Halladay in the off season, it was nice havin' ya on our team!!!Oh, and let me be the 25,964,232nd person in Canada that wants Retardi fired. very. bad. job. Edited August 11, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 all around suckage.bon voyage, Rios. you won't be missed.So that's Rolen, Rios, BJ Ryan....and they're not rebuilding. pffft. so long Halladay in the off season, it was nice havin' ya on our team!!!Oh, and let me be the 25,964,232nd person in Canada that wants Retardi fired. very. bad. job.25,964,233rd'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I find so many of the Blue Jays contracts and moves inexplicable in recent years (well actually the GM is the explanation but still....). Christ why didn't they trade Halladay for something decent when they had a chance, Rios for a few minor league average prospects, you never know. Rolen goes for minor leaguers (not the worst move if you're rebuilding), Rios goes for nothing (uuuh okay, big contract but you could have gotten something), Doc stays but is as good as gone (Remember Rolen? Kind of looked like you were rebuilding). For fucks sake, this organization couldn't even throw in the towel properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I'll toss in Vernon's stats just so I can close filled with hate.Wells AB 437 HR 12 RBIs 47 AVG .259 OBP .305 SLG .412 (wow, just wow)Hey at least he's staying in the lineup and getting his ABs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Wells is a 20 HR, 80 RBI player. and he's had two 30+ and 3 100+ RBI seasons. he's a good hitter. and if he getting paid what he was worth nobody would be dissing him. but he's getting the pay of a tier 1 superstar. never was and never will be. the team needs an owner that truly wants it and sees the value of having a baseball team (and not just as business on the books). Roger's doesn't know what to do with the team, since Ted died. another reason to hate Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSloth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Except Vernon's on pace for more of a 17HR 68RBI season while probably having 600+ ABs (if he stays healthy). That's awful. Shit, he's not even a tier 2 hitter at this point. His slugging percentage is pathetic, so is his OBP...actually it all is.But yeah Mammoth I see your point, my hate would probably just be disappointment if it wasn't for the big bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wooly Mammoth Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Except Vernon's on pace for more of a 17HR 68RBI season while probably having 600+ ABs (if he stays healthy). That's awful. Shit, he's not even a tier 2 hitter at this point. His slugging percentage is pathetic, so is his OBP...actually it all is.But yeah Mammoth I see your point, my hate would probably just be disappointment if it wasn't for the big bucks.the Jays sold him as great player and gave him that type of contract. even his career year falls WAY short of "one of the best players" status. never was, never will be. we was duped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimoe Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 The Fan 590 and Prime Time's Bob McCown's take on the Rios waiver deal:Adios, AlexBob McCown — It will be suggested that the Toronto Blue Jays made a colossal blunder in handing Alex Rios to the Chicago White Sox without getting so much as a cheese sandwich in return. But even if you believe that to be true, it would have been an even greater mistake to keep him. There was a time when Rios appeared to be a career .300 hitter who, when he added some muscle to his lithesome frame, might belt 30 home runs as well. He was quick, an above average base stealer, and appeared to glide in the outfield as he pursued fly balls. A two-time All Star, Rios appeared headed for stardom, maybe even Cooperstown. But the enigmatic right fielder, which showed so much promise in his early years, saw his performance slide noticeably last year and yet again in 2009. Rumours started circling that he wasn't especially bright or that he was "uncoachable" or maybe both. And perhaps worst of all, it appeared to many that Rios had no heart. There were times when he seemed to give less than his best effort and too often was emotionless in the face of adversity. Still, whatever the criticism, it was ultimately irrelevant. What was relevant was the contract he signed with the Jays in 2008. The deal was to pay him $64 million for six years or $77.5 million for seven if the Jays exercised their option. Those were numbers which demanded performance and anticipated improvement, certainly not regression. With a team that wasn't going to compete in 2009, Wells and Rios were shopped, but the reason there were no takers was the exact reason why they were on the market. Big contracts. It seems likely that both wound up on waivers last week, although we may never know about Wells. But when the White Sox put in a claim on Rios, the Blue Jays had to be both surprised and delighted. Here was an unexpected opportunity to get out from under a contract that had become an albatross around their neck. For three days they tried to get the White Sox to throw something into the deal, but when that failed, letting Rios go was still a no-brainer. Chicago gets the player but with it they inherit the contract. Toronto, on the other hand, saves more than $9million next season and more in subsequent years. What remains to be seen is how the club uses that money. If the savings are destined to achieve "cost certainty" and effectively pocketed by ownership, there will be many unhappy fans. However, if the savings (along with several million dollars more) are reinvested during the off season in a sincere effort to produce a contender in 2010, the Rios move will not only be worth remembering, it will be worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I'd eat a cheese sandwich right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 fuckyeahAdios Rios.I hope they pull a Colangelo this offseason and buy some talent.and fucking fire that asshole retardi already I'm so fucking tired of him, fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Here's an article from cnnsi.com that rips Ricciardi to SHREDS: When it comes to bad contracts, Jays' Ricciardi is hard to beat In fact, really, we should just start referring to bad baseball contracts as "Ricciardis." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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