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I don't care that Rios was let go, but you'd think they could have traded him before the deadline to, say, Chicago. J.P. has to go, but the Jays did save $62 million. They are bringing up Travis Snider and we all know that the main reason why the Jays have struggled this year is because of lack of offensive production from Rios, Wells and Overbay (and no batting contributions from the left-field position). The bullpen hasn't been good either.

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all around suckage.

bon voyage, Rios. you won't be missed.

So that's Rolen, Rios, BJ Ryan....and they're not rebuilding. pffft. so long Halladay in the off season, it was nice havin' ya on our team!!!

Oh, and let me be the 25,964,232nd person in Canada that wants Retardi fired. very. bad. job.

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all around suckage.

bon voyage, Rios. you won't be missed.

So that's Rolen, Rios, BJ Ryan....and they're not rebuilding. pffft. so long Halladay in the off season, it was nice havin' ya on our team!!!

Oh, and let me be the 25,964,232nd person in Canada that wants Retardi fired. very. bad. job.

25,964,233rd'd

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I find so many of the Blue Jays contracts and moves inexplicable in recent years (well actually the GM is the explanation but still....). Christ why didn't they trade Halladay for something decent when they had a chance, Rios for a few minor league average prospects, you never know.

Rolen goes for minor leaguers (not the worst move if you're rebuilding), Rios goes for nothing (uuuh okay, big contract but you could have gotten something), Doc stays but is as good as gone (Remember Rolen? Kind of looked like you were rebuilding). For fucks sake, this organization couldn't even throw in the towel properly.

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Wells is a 20 HR, 80 RBI player. and he's had two 30+ and 3 100+ RBI seasons. he's a good hitter. and if he getting paid what he was worth nobody would be dissing him. but he's getting the pay of a tier 1 superstar. never was and never will be. the team needs an owner that truly wants it and sees the value of having a baseball team (and not just as business on the books). Roger's doesn't know what to do with the team, since Ted died.

another reason to hate Rogers.

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Except Vernon's on pace for more of a 17HR 68RBI season while probably having 600+ ABs (if he stays healthy). That's awful. Shit, he's not even a tier 2 hitter at this point. His slugging percentage is pathetic, so is his OBP...actually it all is.

But yeah Mammoth I see your point, my hate would probably just be disappointment if it wasn't for the big bucks.

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Except Vernon's on pace for more of a 17HR 68RBI season while probably having 600+ ABs (if he stays healthy). That's awful. Shit, he's not even a tier 2 hitter at this point. His slugging percentage is pathetic, so is his OBP...actually it all is.

But yeah Mammoth I see your point, my hate would probably just be disappointment if it wasn't for the big bucks.

the Jays sold him as great player and gave him that type of contract. even his career year falls WAY short of "one of the best players" status. never was, never will be. we was duped.

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The Fan 590 and Prime Time's Bob McCown's take on the Rios waiver deal:

Adios, Alex

Bob McCown — It will be suggested that the Toronto Blue Jays made a colossal blunder in handing Alex Rios to the Chicago White Sox without getting so much as a cheese sandwich in return. But even if you believe that to be true, it would have been an even greater mistake to keep him.

There was a time when Rios appeared to be a career .300 hitter who, when he added some muscle to his lithesome frame, might belt 30 home runs as well. He was quick, an above average base stealer, and appeared to glide in the outfield as he pursued fly balls. A two-time All Star, Rios appeared headed for stardom, maybe even Cooperstown.

But the enigmatic right fielder, which showed so much promise in his early years, saw his performance slide noticeably last year and yet again in 2009. Rumours started circling that he wasn't especially bright or that he was "uncoachable" or maybe both. And perhaps worst of all, it appeared to many that Rios had no heart. There were times when he seemed to give less than his best effort and too often was emotionless in the face of adversity.

Still, whatever the criticism, it was ultimately irrelevant. What was relevant was the contract he signed with the Jays in 2008. The deal was to pay him $64 million for six years or $77.5 million for seven if the Jays exercised their option. Those were numbers which demanded performance and anticipated improvement, certainly not regression.

With a team that wasn't going to compete in 2009, Wells and Rios were shopped, but the reason there were no takers was the exact reason why they were on the market. Big contracts. It seems likely that both wound up on waivers last week, although we may never know about Wells. But when the White Sox put in a claim on Rios, the Blue Jays had to be both surprised and delighted. Here was an unexpected opportunity to get out from under a contract that had become an albatross around their neck.

For three days they tried to get the White Sox to throw something into the deal, but when that failed, letting Rios go was still a no-brainer. Chicago gets the player but with it they inherit the contract. Toronto, on the other hand, saves more than $9million next season and more in subsequent years.

What remains to be seen is how the club uses that money. If the savings are destined to achieve "cost certainty" and effectively pocketed by ownership, there will be many unhappy fans. However, if the savings (along with several million dollars more) are reinvested during the off season in a sincere effort to produce a contender in 2010, the Rios move will not only be worth remembering, it will be worthwhile.

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