bradm Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yet another idealistic idea: have the head of OC Transpo (maybe the whole top level of its management), the mayor, and the members of transport committee be compensated, it whole or in part, based on ridership, in effect paying them a commission (some fraction of a cent, say) for every OC Transpo rider (or sold ticket, or sold monthly or yearly pass) in a given period of time. And of course, with a strike on, there wouldn't be any riders, so that part of their compensation would drop to zero.Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 I for one would be upset if once a month the mayor and council took the day off to play OC Transpo Amazing Race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 I wonder: if Mayor O'Brien (or Alan Mercier) didn't have a car' date=' would the strike still be on?[/quote']agreed. And the mayor doesn't have to drive to work every day either. it's a short walk for him. In other cities (e.g. Toronto) the transit system is run by a separate authority, and not directly by the city as well. I think that would also make a difference.That's the way it used to be...then along came amalgamation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
can-o-phish Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Hard to believe that both the OC & York strikes are still unresolved.What are the major issues that seem to be impossible for either side to negotiate on? Scheduling seems to be one of the main ones. What are the other main issues?I have no compassion for the striking TAs at York. They've used their own students as "hostages" and if it is not resolved soon they've destroyed a year of studies for many and that's just the immediate impact...long term will follow and leads to more problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 the Ontario legislature is having a session today to pass back to work legislation for the York strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgnor Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Which may take up to fourteen days due to a recalcitrant NDP. My grad apps are gone tomorrow because it will be too late to begin new "winter term" classes. Leaves me one class short a four year degree regardless of whether or not I get to finish the other four that I'm halfway through. It's pretty sweet. Edited January 25, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 For example, I could see those people given a task once a month (or once a week, or both, with the weekly tasks being easy ones, and the monthly tasks harder ones) that they have to complete without the use of their (or their families') vehicles. The task would be randomly chosen, and would be the equivalent of an errand: Go grocery shopping with a toddler or infant and no stroller. Oh, wait ... that one is better suited to the knobs at STO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Sorry to hear about the problems the two different strikes have caused certain individuals on the Board. I support organized labour and there right to strike. I feel that almost most times strikes could be adverted and rarely is it job class issues. I feel that Mangement for the most part is shady whether it is government or Private Sector. i don't think Government can just start odering every labour group back to work or somehow making them Essential Services. Also how much is being saved for ther Budgets with these Strikes continuing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 just cracked a Heiny...and I ain't talking about me wifes ass.unfortunately!It's already cracked!! Ba-dump-bump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) WOW.Maybe I'll be back sooner than I thought. Rona flip flops Edited January 28, 2009 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvet Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Doesn't the fact that the city is still operating relatively smoothly after 50 days prove that OC Transpo is not an essential service?Or perhaps the city isn't running as smoothly as I (a vehicle owner) percieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 i think your second sentence is much more in tune with the reality of many people than the first.Also, it's not an essential service, as determined by a bunch of people (Industrial Relations Board I think). But that doesn't mean the workers can't be legislated back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Or perhaps the city isn't running as smoothly as I (a vehicle owner) percieve.Probably has more to do with not having to commute in rush hour every morning and every afternoon.I wonder if the feds sudden interest in ending the stalemate has to do with Obama's visit in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Why would Ottawa's public transit situation have anything to do with Obama's visit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Doesn't the fact that the city is still operating relatively smoothly after 50 days prove that OC Transpo is not an essential service?I think the fact that nobody's died (yet), or is reported to have died, as a result of the buses not running is the reason OC Transpo isn't considered to be an essential service. (In other words, the "essential" criterion is applied to individuals, as opposed to the city as a whole, and specifically to individuals being in imminent danger. By that criterion, public transit is very different from, say, ambulance services or the services provided by police or fire departments.)Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Why would Ottawa's public transit situation have anything to do with Obama's visit? Optics. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I guess it would suck that he'd be stranded at the airport with no 97 running.?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakis Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Why Ollie? Because I am sure they want the President of the United States to see our capital city as a place where the public transit system runs smoothly and isn't on strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Why Ollie? Because I am sure they want the President of the United States to see our capital city as a place where the public transit system runs smoothly and isn't on strike.My faith in the youth of Canadia is restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak By Night Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 nobody's died (yet).... as a result of the buses not runningCornholio's gonna die as a result of this strike! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa. Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 he needs teepee for his bunghole!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 he needs teepee for his bunghole!!Thinking of Mayor O'Brien's complete lack of hair, and how some people might consider him a shithead, I read that as "toupee for his bunghole."Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberdinghy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I'm bored.Who's got my heady body armour for when I return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 It's canada, there won't be violence. Just get some sneaky earphones that aren't noticeable and you can ignore everything that's said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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