Blurry Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 This is funny on so many levels (none of which has to do with The Chameleon Project's movie or any of the tweaked out "sausage" at the show) What a joke.Luke you might do better as a writer here;http://tvmegasite.net/jobs.shtml"I'm an old school junglist" - ha ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdy Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I don't see the point of this thread... other than it's author just wanting to be a complete dick. Are you expecting all the little tweak heads to create some kind of online persona, log onto here and apologize over and over again for drooling over one girl at an otherwise all guy party? Puhleeeeze. Your girlfriend needs to get a grip and not have her boyfriend go on a public message board and berate people for staring at her. I'd hate to see her say in Italy, where instead of guys just staring at her, they'd actually walk up to her and pinch her ass. You'd probably lose your shit then! The irony of this all I suppose is the author probably has offended even MORE people with this post. But noone has the vulgarity to say they're going to 'fucking rock his head in'. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) I understand how you might not like what Luke said or how he said it but I fail to see how you have any basis for feeling offended by his statements. He's perfectly entitled to make them whether anyone gets unduly offended or not.I don't see how he's referring to you personally, so I just don't get it.You don't get offended when someone is rude or offensive to your friends? Maybe "offended" is the wrong term, but I know I will stick up for my friends when someone insults them. I am not trying to pick a fight, I just think that Jaydawg is justified in going on the defensive a little for this unnecessary outburst. Sure, Luke doesn't have to like the Chameleon Project, he also doesn't have to go spitting insults at them in a public place either (a public place that they frequent).Sorry for piping up, I just get pissed off when people are rude! Edited March 27, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I just get pissed off when people are rude! you must get pissed off a lot here ... sorry, couldn't resist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 you must get pissed off a lot here ... sorry, couldn't resist I know, I know, I should have thicker skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradm Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I know, I know, I should have thicker skin.I'm really tempted to make some crack about exactly which part(s) of your body should have that thicker skin, but I wouldn't want to be rude...Aloha,Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 You don't get offended when someone is rude or offensive to your friends? .... Sure, Luke doesn't have to like the Chameleon Project, he also doesn't have to go spitting insults at them in a public place either (a public place that they frequent).Let's see, I'd say most of the guys in the Fat Cats are my friends, known them for a long time now. If you wish to say something untoward about them as individual human beings, that would rub me the wrong way, sure, and I would defend their good characters. But you could say whatever you like about their music and I would have to concede you're perfectly entitled to that view. So while I might not agree, I wouldn't feel the need to stick up for their music just because I like them as people. Separate the music from the individual people making it and judge accordingly but be honest; if you think a band is good because they are nice guys trying hard and they're fun to party with and to know, well that doesn't have anything to do with their music.For instance, I never really enjoyed nero much but I always thought the guys in the band were A+ dudes. Hey, I'm being perfectly honest here.Finally, yes this is a public place. That's exactly the point. edit: I know I've got drawn into both the Slowcoaster thread and this one but remember I never said one thing about what I think of either band. I just think people can say what they wish about the music they hear and they don't need to be either diplomatic nor fuzzy about it, if they so choose. It's not like I necessarily *agree* with Luke here. I just don't feel like I have to either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peipunk Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 I know exactly what you are saying....I know you never liked nero much, but you never came on this website and started listing off the things you didn't like about nero either (and you still came to our shows in Hamilton! I tried to make sure I personally thanked you every time, lol). I consider you not bringing up the things you don't like about nero into the countless old inane nero fawning threads( ) a matter of personal courtesy and politeness, partly due to all the people around here who were so passionate about nero. Maybe I am wrong. I am just trying to defend JChameleon a bit, since the guy seem like a genuinely nice dude who loves music a lot, and honestly, because of this damn message board I feel like I know him a bit, haha. Luke can flame away all he wants, I just don't see the point of it, other than to be rude, but whatever I am going to shut up now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twirlin Diva Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 * Jaydawg Said:I think your "critical-ness" has become increasingly one sided, that you fail to give any credit to the strengths of some musical projects.Why should anyone necessarily have to give a balanced take on anything? It sometimes serves no other purpose than trying to appear kind and cool to other people. Better to just say what one thinks and be done with it.I think that good journalism should be a mix of personal opinion, but constructive enough to give details about the sound, direction and compairisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questcequecest? Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 i don't think the point was to serve up 'good journalism', just a heated rant meant to garner some feedback (and rattle some cages). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Luke can flame away all he wants, I just don't see the point of it, other than to be rude... and I agree, I don't know what constructive purpose it serves, other than to demonstrate a range of opinion within the community, which is his perogative. And yeah it's frustrating for sure, occasionally amusing but largely frustrating. Point is, I know it's nice to be nice all the time but it's too much to expect from every single person on a public forum. People can be as sweet or as brutal as they wish.I really only ever went to Nero to look at you anyway. You were so beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcO Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 * Jaydawg Said:I think your "critical-ness" has become increasingly one sided, that you fail to give any credit to the strengths of some musical projects.Why should anyone necessarily have to give a balanced take on anything? It sometimes serves no other purpose than trying to appear kind and cool to other people. Better to just say what one thinks and be done with it.I think that good journalism should be a mix of personal opinion, but constructive enough to give details about the sound, direction and compairisons.I agree that's a cornerstone of good journalism. But making a post on a public message board has nothing to do with journalism and it's standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faoy Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Chameleon Project fucking blow.I think that you are being pretty harsh on this developing band.. They've been at it for over 5 years so if they're still trying to develope their sound I think they should call it quits.Seriously they really aren't very good. Even Jommoma is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishtaper Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 (edited) is that leif garrett? and fwiw, i wonder what this woman would have to say about the original point of all of this. a little too ironic, dont ya think? Edited March 27, 2007 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Why should it matter if Chameleon Project is good or bad within the context of this thread? Luke posted what was primarily a comment about the conduct of the AUDIENCE at a CP show.Yes, he further went on to critique the music (which is his perogative-I would agree Marco, and I would agree Diva, not exactly up to journalistic standards)but the crucial point was the behaviour that made his friend uncomfortable.On that subject,I fail to see why a band should be responsible for their audience.The Cp isn't accountable for what happened.Neither does it have ANYTHING to do with whether their music is or is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AD Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Allison, did you miss this part?On a musical level we both agreed that Chameleon Projects grooves and breaks were derivative and lacklustre and that that band should lay off the chems and the electronics. That's not jungle or drum and bass it's wanky drum and bass grooves, way too much effects on a sh!t guitar style and basically a really annoying band with little going for it. The fact that the Grateful Dead's legacy is somehow insulted by this group deeply offends me.Luke definitely stirred it up again, that was the goal it seems to me. Light a fire then walk away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allison Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 No I didn't miss that part. I guess what Im saying is that Lukes intial post SHOULD have been JUST about the audience-which I would divorce from the band-and his attack on the band seemed sort of more a nasty backhand aside.You know, if I could edit the original post for cogency and impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Boy 2.0 Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 eyebrows..... up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booche Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Baj's post SHOULD have been JUST about a Weeble instead of a Legoman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanada Kev Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 a little too ironic, dont ya think? Check this out and you'll see why Alanis got it all wrong : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 thanks kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edger Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 The Cp isn't accountable for what happened.Neither does it have ANYTHING to do with whether their music is or is not good.I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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